Does anyone here do C# work on a Mac outside of Unity? If so, what kind of project is it?
Project Rider – A C# IDE
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#12Is there an EAP available?
> We’re aiming to open a private EAP in the coming weeks, towards the end of February. We’ll announce the signup form here on the blog, as well as on Twitter.
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#13JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers.
This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this.
* Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.
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#14Ever since I started reading the C# language docs I wanted to switch to it from Java. Open sourcing some of the components of the language only pushed that drive farther. I'm glad to see that now a switch to C# is viable for me. I need a good IDE, and nothing really comes close to the 'gold' standard, JetBrains products. Bravo! Can't wait to use it.
Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)
I dev on C# full time and also use Eclipse for java, and while vs is more professional-looking and featureful, the darn thing feels disgustingly single-threaded. The amount of ways to cause a stop-the-world lock-up is impressive.
Vs2015 somewhat improved on its predecessors on this front, but it still has plenty of ways where it drags.
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#15Finally, a proper C# IDE on not-Windows. I've been working with ASP.NET 5 on Linux for the last year and Sublime, Atom, VSCode, etc. are all painful. Sublime is surely dead, and anything based on Electron kills my 2-core CPU and my battery. I was in the talk here at NDC London where they demo'd Rider, and I can confirm that it is very fast and he showed the Mac process view and it was barely hitting the CPU, even with a JVM and a Mono VM running. And when it's all running on .NET Core it should be even faster.
Great days.
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#16JetBrains products are very powerful, well designed, customizable, and overall awesome in my experience (ReSharper and PyCharm). Looking forward to this! And really hoping they will have a free edition, although I doubt it.
CLion isn't all that great. It still has major issues analyzing a lot of C++ code (false positive red squiggly lines everywhere), almost 1.5 years after the initial annoncement.
Although C# should be a much easier language to deal with, so this one might turn out better.
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#17Ever since I started reading the C# language docs I wanted to switch to it from Java. Open sourcing some of the components of the language only pushed that drive farther. I'm glad to see that now a switch to C# is viable for me. I need a good IDE, and nothing really comes close to the 'gold' standard, JetBrains products. Bravo! Can't wait to use it.
Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)
I don't agree. If an IDE takes better hardware to run than Crysis and is so bloated with features that it makes a Epson HX-20 look like a Macbook Air there is a problem.
People use Visual Studios because they are used to it.
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#18Ever since I started reading the C# language docs I wanted to switch to it from Java. Open sourcing some of the components of the language only pushed that drive farther. I'm glad to see that now a switch to C# is viable for me. I need a good IDE, and nothing really comes close to the 'gold' standard, JetBrains products. Bravo! Can't wait to use it.
Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)
VS is nice and powerful, but ironically it needs Resharper to match a JetBrains IDE like IntelliJ for autocompletion/tooltips/navigation, which is severly lacking in Visual Studio. That's one objection. The other problem with Visual Studio is that it's a beast. It takes multiple gigs of drive space (which of course suddenly became a problem when everyone's disks shrunk from 1TB to 128GB over night a couple of years ago, at the same time VS grew to around 15GB...). This is being worked on, but it will be a few more versions until the installer is good, and it will never be as small as an IDE that isn't carrying years of Windows legacy stuff. In short: VS is one of the best IDE's out there, but it would be a lot better (At C#) if it contained ReSharper's features and weighed in at 1/10 of its size. And that is exactly what this looks like.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)
I dev on C# full time and also use Eclipse for java, and while vs is more professional-looking and featureful, the darn thing feels disgustingly single-threaded. The amount of ways to cause a stop-the-world lock-up is impressive. Vs2015 somewhat improved on its predecessors on this front, but it still has plenty of ways where it drags.
I think the reason most people don't notice this is because developers on average have better computer hardware. Anyone who uses a laptop for on-the-go development on the other hand gets hit with these problems front-on.
In college, I assumed everyone loved Visual Studios just because everyone was told to use it and there were, in reality, no other options. I hope that in the next few years, with the open sourcing of some Microsoft software, that we can see better IDEs for the ecosystem being created.
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#20Are there any clauses in the Roslyn license that prevents third parties for using it for writing code that directly competes with Microsofts own products such as Visual Studio?