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Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by s73v3r »

eitally wrote: post #7
digital_ins wrote: post #2

I've used Cortana and apart from a little minor anthromorphic work to give her a 'personality' (like Siri), I wouldn't say that it's too far ahead of Google Now in terms of features and functionality. Baking Cortana into Cyanogen OS seems a little like overkill in terms of deviating from Google's version of Android

I agree completely. I don't see any justification for doing this, and it just further confuses and adds complexity to the user experience. MS/Cortana will never be able to offer as deep integrations across Android as Google does with Now, and that gap's only going to continue to grow as more 3rd party devs create Now cards and Now intents within their apps. I don't see that happening at all with Cortana.

Why not? Remember, this is Cyannogen's distribution, so they could change it up so that the things that would be answered by Now are answered by Cortana. Now cards might not carry over, but that shouldn't be a big deal. And Cyannogen should be able to make Cortana respond to the Now intents.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by s73v3r »

xlayn wrote: post #9

Cyanogen user on n4 for a long time because I don't want g' bits and bytes on my cellphone I find this unsettling. I see the following points on it (I would refrain from calling them plus or cons). -The reason I did the change is avoid G using MY device as their personal Wifi scanning station, the switch meant battery 2-3x more, I hope Microsoft doesn't mess with Android that way. -If they roll it for all devices I h…

This is only for the commercial offering of Cyannogen. The random roms out there for different phones that you flash yourself are not part of this.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by s73v3r »

eckza wrote: post #18
herbst wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AOKP, if that is what you want AOKP was always the actually right choice.

And what phone can I put it on without irreversibly voiding my warranty? I tried Android a few years ago on an LG G2. Rooting to install CyanogenMod was an EXTREMELY STRESSFUL EXPERIENCE; and flashing back to stock to return the fucking thing every time it broke (every other month) was even more stressful. I'm on an iPhone now because it works well and doesn't shit out every 5 minutes like my G2 did, but I'm becoming…

"but I'm becoming increasingly aware of the myriad ways that my personal privacy is being violated by the apps and services that I use, and I'm considering jumping ship again."

The grass isn't greener on the other side.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

#34

Post by ocdtrekkie »

s73v3r wrote: post #31
eitally wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I don't see any justification for doing this, and it just further confuses and adds complexity to the user experience. MS/Cortana will never be able to offer as deep integrations across Android as Google does with Now, and that gap's only going to continue to grow as more 3rd party devs create Now cards and Now intents within their apps. I don't see that happening at all with Cortana.

Why not? Remember, this is Cyannogen's distribution, so they could change it up so that the things that would be answered by Now are answered by Cortana. Now cards might not carry over, but that shouldn't be a big deal. And Cyannogen should be able to make Cortana respond to the Now intents.

Indeed, Cortana's integration with Windows Phones is quite similar to Google Now's with Android. At least as far as the APIs which are open components of Android, rather than proprietary Play services, Cortana should be able to pick up the same intents and all.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

#35

Post by ikurei »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #15
jeremy7600 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a good laugh reading the article about how Cyanogen is trying to steal Android from Google, as well. Too funny!

How can anyone steal an open source OS?

Yes, of course they can't steal the source code, nor the OS itself. There OS is used in a broader sense. They want to steal Google's position of inmense power in the Android ecosystem.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

#36

Post by JustSomeNobody »

wolfgke wrote: post #23
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, Google open sourced it so they're cool with that. I still don't see the issue here.

Allowing forking (by the license) does not mean that Google likes forking.

That is how these things work. If an org isn't willing to allow forking then they forking shouldn't have open sourced it. The FACT that Google open sourced it tells me THEY DON'T MIND.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by mtgx »

jeremy7600 wrote: post #4

Uhm, why does techcrunch not mention that Cortana's deep integration in Android sounds a lot like Google Now's deep integration into Android? And I agree with others, how can adding a large app that sends data to MS help with bloat or security?

Cyanogen, you were the chosen one. You were supposed to eliminate the bloatware, not add it!

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by tracker1 »

digital_ins wrote: post #2

I've used Cortana and apart from a little minor anthromorphic work to give her a 'personality' (like Siri), I wouldn't say that it's too far ahead of Google Now in terms of features and functionality. Baking Cortana into Cyanogen OS seems a little like overkill in terms of deviating from Google's version of Android

I think there are a few things at play here. First, is people want this functionality. Second, they're likely getting some funding from MS for doing this (Cyanogen OS, similarly is about making a living, or profit for that matter). Third, Google's integration from Apps, to the Play Store comes with a lot of strings attached, and it makes sense for Cyanogen to avoid as much of that as possible.

Personally, I want as close to a pure android experience as possible, and may move from the OnePlus One to whatever the next smart phones from Google/Nexus at the end of the year are (or current if my phone drops). The only thing I really like about my OPO over others, currently is my back cover is the bamboo option, and I really appreciate natural/wood when it's available for a product.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by roflchoppa »

It's cool to see that Cortana (feels weird to say that because avid Halo player) would have the capability to access and work with 3rd party applications. It's something that I really wish iOS had, Oh well they need something as part of their n-Amount of "new" features for iOS X.

Re: Microsoft’s Cortana Gets Baked into Cyanogen’s Forked Version of Android

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #36
wolfgke wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing forking (by the license) does not mean that Google likes forking.

That is how these things work. If an org isn't willing to allow forking then they forking shouldn't have open sourced it. The FACT that Google open sourced it tells me THEY DON'T MIND.

Then why did Google threaten to banish Acer from the OHA if they dared release even a single device running a fork, partnered with a competing search engine?

Google has made it very clear they are opposed to so-called 'incompatible' forks of Android, and that they consider pretty much anything not running Google's proprietary services to be 'incompatible'.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/sep/19/android-ch...

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