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Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by nl »

ksec wrote: post #30
nl wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if everyone realizes this, but often (outside the US at least) neither company build or owns data centers. For example, Amazon Sydney is in Equinix SY3[1]. [1] https://blog.equinix.com/2012/11/amazon-web-services-comes-t... (plus I know people who saw the equipment going in)

Wow, is that the same with OVH? Since every one of their DC are specially built by them so far. ( Although it would make sense, since 12 totally new DC in a year is quite an achievement. )

I don't know about OVH. I know OVH built their Quebec DC, but I'd be surprised if their expansion plans don't include leasing space (if they don't already do it).

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by ebroder »

cjg_ wrote: post #27
jakozaur wrote: post #13

The availability of instance type also hints the future for other AWS regions. E.g. T2, M4, C4, I2, D2, and R3 are available, but not M3 or C3.

Not that strange that they not are offering previous generation hardware at new locations.

I'd argue that m3 and c3 instances shouldn't be classified as "previous generation", since the m4 and c4 instances don't have any local ephemeral storage. Given the recent EBS incident in GovCloud, I think it's still pretty reasonable to be skeptical of EBS.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by rahimnathwani »

methou wrote: post #12

Route trace from Beijing Unicom Residential network, looks like packets are routed through japan, not sure if it's just temporary or will be improved later. (Comparing 50+ms from Beijing to other providers in Korea): 3 5 ms 6 ms 3 ms 61.148.160.169 4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 124.65.57.117 5 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 123.126.0.77 6 36 ms 38 ms 39 ms 219.158.7.22 7 109 ms 103 ms 105 ms 219.158.23.10 8 42 ms 39 ms 41 ms 219.158.19.81 9 165…

Thanks. I came hoping for an answer to this exact question. If it's improved latency it could be a good choice for a personal VPN.

BTW - which other providers in Korea would you recommend?

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by Nyr »

oblio wrote: post #23

Man, Africa looks really sad. I was looking through their region list ( http://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/rande.html ) and everything is in the Americas, Europe, Asia and Australia. Africa's nowhere to be found.

Maybe if peering in Africa didn't suck big time and bandwidth wasn't prohibitively expensive, the situation would be different.

Anyway, AWS in South Africa isn't worth it if routes to nearby countries go through London anyway (like it's currently the case).

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by darkr »

bashtoni wrote: post #14
ksec wrote: post #6

On the other hand, OVH will have 12 more DC open this year, Starting with Portland and Ashburn in US, then Singapore and Australia.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

If you count edge locations (where stuff like anycasted nameservers, cloudfront and network PoPs are hosted) as well then the DC count is significantly higher than that

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by Nyr »

kiwidrew wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, Google Compute Engine still only has four regions and hasn't expanded in over 18 months. (Don't get me started on App Engine, it's not even available for the Asia region!) Still no presence in the entire southern hemisphere!

But Google has absolutely the best peering available, which is a great advantage for many regions.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by dmytton »

kiwidrew wrote: post #2

Meanwhile, Google Compute Engine still only has four regions and hasn't expanded in over 18 months. (Don't get me started on App Engine, it's not even available for the Asia region!) Still no presence in the entire southern hemisphere!

Google added their 4th region - US East - in October last year[1] but it's true that this is poor effort compared to Azure and AWS.

I wrote an article for InfoWorld about this at the end of last year: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3008617/cloud-computing/glo... and have a map of locations at https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zV7qz2PQ6Sz4.kJHcuw...

[1] http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/Bringing-G...

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by Artemis2 »

darkr wrote: post #35
bashtoni wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

If you count edge locations (where stuff like anycasted nameservers, cloudfront and network PoPs are hosted) as well then the DC count is significantly higher than that

Don't forget the availability zones! Each region has 2-4 availability zones, and each of these has 1-6 datacenters. The scale of AWS is at least an order of magnitude more important than OVH's.
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