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Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by IIAOPSW » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 10:22 AM UTC

Hey AWS, fix the issue of accepting Unionpay debit cards (not just credit) and I'll start using you again.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by yulunli » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 10:51 AM UTC

methou wrote: post #12

Route trace from Beijing Unicom Residential network, looks like packets are routed through japan, not sure if it's just temporary or will be improved later. (Comparing 50+ms from Beijing to other providers in Korea): 3 5 ms 6 ms 3 ms 61.148.160.169 4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 124.65.57.117 5 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 123.126.0.77 6 36 ms 38 ms 39 ms 219.158.7.22 7 109 ms 103 ms 105 ms 219.158.23.10 8 42 ms 39 ms 41 ms 219.158.19.81 9 165…

AWS(China) has been in preview for more than a year. Not sure when that will reach GA.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by oblio » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 10:52 AM UTC

Man, Africa looks really sad. I was looking through their region list (http://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/rande.html) and everything is in the Americas, Europe, Asia and Australia.

Africa's nowhere to be found.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by Symbiote » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 11:04 AM UTC

Smirnoff wrote: post #5

aerioux wrote: post #4

Can anyone comment on their performance boosts over Tokyo/Singapore with this new region?

And Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan??? We have been using servers located in North Virginia so far -- it is not that bad actually, definitely better than buying hosting locally. PS: Why downvotes? If you disagree, please care to post your reasoning or experience.

Wouldn't Frankfurt or Ireland be closer than the USA?

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by nl » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 11:09 AM UTC

bashtoni wrote: post #14

ksec wrote: post #6

On the other hand, OVH will have 12 more DC open this year, Starting with Portland and Ashburn in US, then Singapore and Australia.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

Not sure if everyone realizes this, but often (outside the US at least) neither company build or owns data centers. For example, Amazon Sydney is in Equinix SY3[1].

[1] https://blog.equinix.com/2012/11/amazon-web-services-comes-t... (plus I know people who saw the equipment going in)

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by cjg_ » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 11:21 AM UTC

nl wrote: post #25

bashtoni wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

Not sure if everyone realizes this, but often (outside the US at least) neither company build or owns data centers. For example, Amazon Sydney is in Equinix SY3[1]. [1] https://blog.equinix.com/2012/11/amazon-web-services-comes-t... (plus I know people who saw the equipment going in)

That's just a Direct Connect location right? Not the actual Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by cjg_ » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 11:23 AM UTC

jakozaur wrote: post #13

The availability of instance type also hints the future for other AWS regions. E.g. T2, M4, C4, I2, D2, and R3 are available, but not M3 or C3.

Not that strange that they not are offering previous generation hardware at new locations.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by nl » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 11:51 AM UTC

cjg_ wrote: post #26

nl wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if everyone realizes this, but often (outside the US at least) neither company build or owns data centers. For example, Amazon Sydney is in Equinix SY3[1]. [1] https://blog.equinix.com/2012/11/amazon-web-services-comes-t... (plus I know people who saw the equipment going in)

That's just a Direct Connect location right? Not the actual Asia Pacific (Sydney) Region.

I'm guessing Equinix aren't allowed to say AWS is in their DC.

But their equipment is in there, 100% guaranteed (or at least was in 2012).

Edit: Here's a better reference:

Equinix yesterday launched phase two of its Sydney 3 International Business Exchange datacentre facility (SY3-II) in Alexandria, with Amazon Web Services (AWS) onboard as one of its first customers.... It was only confirmed yesterday — despite it being the worst-kept secret in the industry - that it is using Equinix's SY3-II datacentre.

http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/equinix-celebrates-launch-of-s...

I don't know for sure, but I also think that AWS Sao Paulo is in the Terremark DC.

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by tombrossman » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 12:01 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #18

bashtoni wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

They are not directly comparable of course. OVH currently has 15 DC, of those additional 12, most of them are in new region, Australia, Singapore, Germany, US, and I think Japan. That will make 27 DC. This isn't say they are comparable by size. Not at all. But you make it sounds like OVH is a small player. Linode, Digital Ocean are medium size. According to Netcraft AWS being first, DO recently became second, and OVH…

I would also add that since OVH own and operate a large physical network[0], they can't really be compared to a hosting-only provider like DigitalOcean. This isn't 'like for like', and is only marginally useful for ranking either company.

Also, for those of us looking for server space to serve a primarily Western market, OVH and AWS are most definitely comparable. AWS have a huge and impressive range of features, most of which I simply do not need (though I'm a happy OVH, AWS, and DO customer because I'm not one to put all my eggs in one basket).

[0]http://weathermap.ovh.net/

Re: Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region

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Post by ksec » Thu, Jan 07, 2016, 12:03 PM UTC

nl wrote: post #25

bashtoni wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.

Not sure if everyone realizes this, but often (outside the US at least) neither company build or owns data centers. For example, Amazon Sydney is in Equinix SY3[1]. [1] https://blog.equinix.com/2012/11/amazon-web-services-comes-t... (plus I know people who saw the equipment going in)

Wow, is that the same with OVH? Since every one of their DC are specially built by them so far.

( Although it would make sense, since 12 totally new DC in a year is quite an achievement. )