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Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by yzh »

sbd01 wrote: post #29
MicroBerto wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.

I'm not a Facebook user myself, but I've heard that the Facebook website can now send notifications through the browser, effectively eliminating the need of a bloated, buggy app.

It's true and I find that feature very annoying. Of course I can turn it off, but they shouldn't turn it on by default IMO.

Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by ianstallings »

MicroBerto wrote: post #27
mschuster91 wrote: post #22

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Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android). Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"... Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if an…

Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.

Okay, it's fine. But face the fact that a lot of people use applications and there is a reason for it. It's not fluff. The situation on mobile browsers and their capabilities in comparison to native applications is quite straight forward. Web browsers can't compete. Yes it is getting better. But it's hardly a replacement. We're not there yet. Not even close.

A relevant article from a Mozilla developer, James Long: http://jlongster.com/Radical-Statements-about-the-Mobile-Web...

Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by melloc »

sparky_ wrote: post #11
gruez wrote: post #6

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You can bypass the paywall by entering your email. Even in the full article they only mention a confidential source, which makes sense because even if it was real, it's very easy to cause a crash without leaving a trace in the app. For instance, the server might purposefully send a malformed response that causes the client to crash. full article mirror: https://i.imgur.com/umOEvs7.jpg

Did you use some tool or browser extension to generate this?

In Firefox's developer toolbar (Tools -> Web Developer -> Developer Toolbar), you can type 'screenshot --fullpage' and it will save an image of the entire page for you.

Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by rimantas »

ianstallings wrote: post #33
MicroBerto wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.

Okay, it's fine. But face the fact that a lot of people use applications and there is a reason for it. It's not fluff. The situation on mobile browsers and their capabilities in comparison to native applications is quite straight forward. Web browsers can't compete. Yes it is getting better. But it's hardly a replacement. We're not there yet. Not even close. A relevant article from a Mozilla developer, James Long: ht…

yep, I ditched Facebook app and I am using web version on the phone. Experience is bad, bordering just tolerable.

Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by rajeevk »

Marcomasino wrote: post #37

"Facebook, despite being the biggest app developer on Android, presents a growing threat to Google." Shouldn't that be Facebook is the biggest developer of Facebook apps on Android? Was this article written at Facebook HQ?

I think the author wanted to say biggest by number of downloads or by popularity

Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?

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Post by marshray »

jamiequint wrote: post #21

Who gives a shit. They're free to degrade its performance all they like in order to test it. Its not as if Facebook has some kind of SLA, its a free service that nobody is obligated to use.

They have a lot of influence on standards of behavior for other web app companies, not to mention expectations of users.

They are relevant, like an 800 pound gorilla.

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