Who gives a shit. They're free to degrade its performance all they like in order to test it. Its not as if Facebook has some kind of SLA, its a free service that nobody is obligated to use.
Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
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Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#22Sounds like the beginning of an urban legend. The truth of the matter is that Facebook engineering is getting bloated just like all other big companies and their apps crash not because they're testing user loyalty but because their code is just shitty.
Their app has been crashing constantly since day 1. On high speed wifi, my newsfeed regularly takes upwards of 10 seconds to load, and the iOS app crashes like a drunk. They do some truly hard things, and coupled with their "move fast and break things" ethos... well they end up with some stability issues. I'm not sure its an issue of bloat though.
Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android).
Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"...
Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if anything happened with it. You basically feel like you're interacting with a fucking black box.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#23Please either point directly to the article that claims to have uncovered this (which is behind a paywall) or don't post anything. Right now, there is zero evidence that any of this is real.
You can bypass the paywall by entering your email. Even in the full article they only mention a confidential source, which makes sense because even if it was real, it's very easy to cause a crash without leaving a trace in the app. For instance, the server might purposefully send a malformed response that causes the client to crash. full article mirror: https://i.imgur.com/umOEvs7.jpg
> You can bypass the paywall by entering your email.
No. I tried before commenting: you need to enter a credit card too.
And the trick of looking up the article title on Google didn't work either.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#24Please either point directly to the article that claims to have uncovered this (which is behind a paywall) or don't post anything. Right now, there is zero evidence that any of this is real.
You can bypass the paywall by entering your email. Even in the full article they only mention a confidential source, which makes sense because even if it was real, it's very easy to cause a crash without leaving a trace in the app. For instance, the server might purposefully send a malformed response that causes the client to crash. full article mirror: https://i.imgur.com/umOEvs7.jpg
Thanks for the mirror.
I didn't find any mention in the article of this "voluntary crash" claim, did I miss it?
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#25>defaulted to the mobile browser version of the social network, rather than give up on Facebook entirely.
I'd rather use the mobile browser version of just about anyone's crappy app. There might be a handful of exceptions.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#26>defaulted to the mobile browser version of the social network, rather than give up on Facebook entirely. I'd rather use the mobile browser version of just about anyone's crappy app. There might be a handful of exceptions.
Tell that to clients. They're convinced that because they're in an app store that they're instamillionaires. My favorite one is house hunting on an app, a la Zillow.
The user numbers that a store reports are so pointless. It's a popularity contest. I wish that someone (anyone) would pull out some open analytics to show usage numbers instead.
At least it'd make my life easier.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their app has been crashing constantly since day 1. On high speed wifi, my newsfeed regularly takes upwards of 10 seconds to load, and the iOS app crashes like a drunk. They do some truly hard things, and coupled with their "move fast and break things" ethos... well they end up with some stability issues. I'm not sure its an issue of bloat though.
Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android). Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"... Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if an…
Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go?
You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser.
Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#28Why "make it"? It crashes perfectly fine on its own.
even Belson couldn't come up with such excuse - like it was just a Nucleus' feature allowing to test viewers' loyalty to the show .
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android). Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"... Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if an…
Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.
I'm not a Facebook user myself, but I've heard that the Facebook website can now send notifications through the browser, effectively eliminating the need of a bloated, buggy app.
Re: Facebook made its Android app crash to test user loyalty?
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can bypass the paywall by entering your email. Even in the full article they only mention a confidential source, which makes sense because even if it was real, it's very easy to cause a crash without leaving a trace in the app. For instance, the server might purposefully send a malformed response that causes the client to crash. full article mirror: https://i.imgur.com/umOEvs7.jpg
Did you use some tool or browser extension to generate this?
No the one you asked either, but I usually email me@onenote.com [1] from my Gmail account with the URL in the subject, and it saves the page as content AND as a long picture.
It would probably not work here since it would require to be logged in or something, in that case I guess OneNote Clipper [2] would do the trick.
[1]https://www.onenote.com/EmailToOneNote
[2]http://www.brucebnews.com/2015/03/onenote-clipper-is-the-bes...