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The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by amelius »

petilon wrote: post #9

I have had sleep issues for many years. I have seen sleep specialists regarding this issue. They basically tell you to reduce stress. But my daily life is not particularly stressful. But my job as a software developer involves brain-intensive work, and when I come home after work, I work on hobby software development projects, which means my brain is working intensely whenever I am awake. That may be the stress leadi…

You could also try meditation. It helps one to find a way to turn off the brain when it is not needed.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by coldtea »

y4mi wrote: post #39
coldtea wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If merely trying a new brand can cause a medical condition worthy of its own name or if it can have adverse effects depending on other medical issues I might have, then yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermagnesemia Do you take all kinds of vitamins and supplements with this cavalier, throw caution to the wind, attitude, or just magnesium because you happen to know it's tame enough? Before supplements don't alway…

there are instant coffee brands with extra caffeine added in as well... you can die from drinking the previous quantity of this new brand of coffee!

>you can die from drinking the previous quantity of this new brand of coffee!

Obviously almost everybody knows about coffee and has already tried many brands in their life (even by going to different restaurants or coffee shops) -- including days when they've drank several times their usual intake. Plus, they've seen countless others doing the same, even before they've started drinking themselves (e.g. their parents).

With magnesium or some random supplement? Not exactly the same case.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by joshavant »

jessaustin wrote: post #27

When I find myself "in a rut" mentally, sometimes a day-night-day of no sleep followed by a night of slightly more sleep than usual does just the trick to make me more coherent and productive.

Sleep deprivation is known to have fast-acting, acute antidepressant effects. This may have something to do with whatever sensation you're noticing.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by e40 »

azm1 wrote: post #25
e40 wrote: post #13

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Instead of working on software when you get home, how about zoning out to some TV or movies? I find that after an hour of TV, it is very easy to fall asleep. I'd give this a try, because meds always have side effects.

I think long walk/run would be better than staring at yet another screen in this case..just my view. I find both running and walking extremely relaxing.

Exercise makes it pretty difficult for me to sleep, for up to 3 hours after. So, if done with the appropriate lead time, it should work.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by e40 »

biot wrote: post #21
e40 wrote: post #13

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Instead of working on software when you get home, how about zoning out to some TV or movies? I find that after an hour of TV, it is very easy to fall asleep. I'd give this a try, because meds always have side effects.

Given that they said "But I can't give up my hobby" (zoning out to TV instead means giving up that hobby) and the fact that the solution they found largely solves the problem without the use of meds, why would they bother giving it a try?

If the hobby is causing serious problems, then maybe changes should be seriously considered. I would never prioritize my current lifestyle + meds over changing said lifestyle without meds, especially when sleep is in the balance.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by hjura »

e40 wrote: post #44
azm1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think long walk/run would be better than staring at yet another screen in this case..just my view. I find both running and walking extremely relaxing.

Exercise makes it pretty difficult for me to sleep, for up to 3 hours after. So, if done with the appropriate lead time, it should work.

Personally what I do is 30 minutes of exercise, just as a break in between the two activities(projects), after a shower it allows me to restart with better mood and more energy. Still too early to make me asleep at night time.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by LordHumungous »

petilon wrote: post #9

I have had sleep issues for many years. I have seen sleep specialists regarding this issue. They basically tell you to reduce stress. But my daily life is not particularly stressful. But my job as a software developer involves brain-intensive work, and when I come home after work, I work on hobby software development projects, which means my brain is working intensely whenever I am awake. That may be the stress leadi…

Oddly enough, ASMR videos work great for me (reddit.com/r/asmr)

Just make sure you turn the monitor off on your laptop, or greatly dim it (https://justgetflux.com). Bright light will keep you awake.

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by anotherevan »

petilon wrote: post #9

I have had sleep issues for many years. I have seen sleep specialists regarding this issue. They basically tell you to reduce stress. But my daily life is not particularly stressful. But my job as a software developer involves brain-intensive work, and when I come home after work, I work on hobby software development projects, which means my brain is working intensely whenever I am awake. That may be the stress leadi…

If Magnesium doesn't work for you, you may also consider trying a Melatonin[1] supplement about an hour or so before bed.

I have also seen a big impact of turning off the electronics and reading a book[2] in bed for the last hour or so of the day before trying to go to sleep.

Lastly, if you are a loud snorer or carrying more than a bit too much weight, you might want to investigate any sleep apnoea[3] issues.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

[2] Actually, I'm usually reading ebooks, but on an e-ink display, not a light-emitting display of any sort, which is the point.

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by biot »

e40 wrote: post #45
biot wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that they said "But I can't give up my hobby" (zoning out to TV instead means giving up that hobby) and the fact that the solution they found largely solves the problem without the use of meds, why would they bother giving it a try?

If the hobby is causing serious problems, then maybe changes should be seriously considered. I would never prioritize my current lifestyle + meds over changing said lifestyle without meds, especially when sleep is in the balance.

That of course depends on whether you consider a magnesium supplement to be "meds". If one is legitimately deficient in some micronutrient, then I hardly think ensuring one gets sufficient amount of that micronutrient to be considered "medicating".

Re: The brain functional connectome is robustly altered by lack of sleep

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Post by robotkilla »

petilon wrote: post #9

I have had sleep issues for many years. I have seen sleep specialists regarding this issue. They basically tell you to reduce stress. But my daily life is not particularly stressful. But my job as a software developer involves brain-intensive work, and when I come home after work, I work on hobby software development projects, which means my brain is working intensely whenever I am awake. That may be the stress leadi…

Same boat thanks for the tips (you and everyone else in this thread).
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