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In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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>mugged by thugs. Or Police. Maybe there isn't a difference between the last two. I find it incredibly distasteful to offer this political commentary in response to a death that has no information about the cause. Please don't ever do this again.

I find it incredibly distasteful... Tired and lame tone policing is tired and lame. [edit: "nu-uh!"]

Bringing up police brutality in a thread about someone who died in no way linked to the police is even more tired and lame.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should there be a public arrest report giving a reason for the arrest too?

I'm mixed posting on this topic as it has degenerated. RIP Ian, God bless you and your family. I pray that they have peace. The register reports that he was intoxicated and attempting to break in to a house when the police confronted him and he fought back. He got some medical attention and then something similar happened at a neighboring house on the block and he was detained. I think with someone of this much notor…

To clarify, The Register is citing this as reason given by police, but without presenting it as fact or corraborated information.

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There are a bunch of comments in this thread that go over the line, but this is one of the worst. To say that a family that just lost a loved one are "spitting on an open grave" is such a breach of the site guidelines that (a) I am going to kill this comment outright and (b) we will ban your account if you post anything else like this to Hacker News. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i…

I understand including the family so explicitly may have overstepped boundaries that could be deemed inappropriate. That was wrong of me and I apologize for being so explicit with my feelings. I only meant to explain the other side, which includes myself, that I feel is being wrongly demonized. I promise that it was poorfully and thoughtlessly phrased rather than having any malicious intentions behind my words. I'm a…

To answer your last question, no, this comment doesn't break the guidelines, and I believe you that your intent was positive.

The problem is that intent doesn't hop across the gap the way that words do. When the subject is emotional, careless words always seem laden with bad intent, whether or not they really were. You're responsible (we all are) for dealing with that when you post comments here, so your comments don't degrade the discourse.

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Ugh. Assholes. The tactics you describe remind me of Matt Taibbi's book "The Divide", where he recounts the experience of people in NYC being asked to empty their pockets (which the police shouldn't do unless they had probable cause) only to be charged with "possessing narcotics in public" when they found they had a joint. The existence of such a loophole, and the fact that the police knowingly uses it with impunity,…

I have a friend in the NYPD. One of the tips he gave me is never empty your pockets if asked to by the police if you are carrying contraband. He said you should just point to the pocket that contains said contraband and tell them that it's in there.

So the cop empties your pocket and you get arrested. Same result as far as I can tell.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

#375

Is this at all related to his statement on suicide and police brutality? What was the cause of death? Source: http://techaeris.com/2015/12/28/debian-founder-ian-murdocks-...

Ian's twitter on Google cache http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps... Copy http://pastebin.com/dX3VSPkM

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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It really bothers me that traces of someone's existence can be wiped out with a mouse click, be it on twitter, google, facebook, or other sites. I read the tweets while this was going on, I was hoping he would find some other means to cope and raise awareness, and to hear that he actually went through with it. :-( I go to reread and see if there's anything I might have missed and his twitter page is gone as if he nev…

Cached by Google http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps... Mirror http://pastebin.com/dX3VSPkM

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Well, it appears his arrest was real, not a delusion. This is all the information they had on VINE. https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=50... Offender Name: IAN ASHLEY MURDOCK Offender ID/CDCR:608067 Date of Birth:04/28/1973 Age: 42 Race: White Gender: Male Custody Status: Out of Custody Date: 12/27/2015 Reason:Bonded out

screenshot https://imgur.com/xrz4usb

> Why can't I find the offender or court case I'm searching for?

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> Registration for notification is not currently available for this offender.

(Highlighting mine in both quotes.)

So much for innocent until proven guilty.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Can you provide anything to support that particular narrative? Or any narrative at all?

"According to the San Francisco police, officers were called to Steiner and Union St in the city at 11.30pm on Saturday, December 26, following reports of a man trying to break into a home – that man was identified as Ian Murdock. He reportedly fought with the cops, and was given a ticket for two counts of assault and one for obstruction of an officer. The techie had been drinking, according to the police logs. A med…

tl;dr "According Police, Police behaved well."

I'm gonna need some corroboration on that one.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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It really bothers me that traces of someone's existence can be wiped out with a mouse click, be it on twitter, google, facebook, or other sites. I read the tweets while this was going on, I was hoping he would find some other means to cope and raise awareness, and to hear that he actually went through with it. :-( I go to reread and see if there's anything I might have missed and his twitter page is gone as if he nev…

Internet Archive still seems to have plenty of his tweets up until yesterday. You might find it easier to just add wayback.co/ before any URL to get its Wayback Machine version.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Crime is at an all-time low these days, and very few people hunt for food. You're probably much more likely to be killed or assaulted by a cop than anyone else, so it seems to make perfect sense that someone would want a gun to protect them from the cops.

Stats show you're much more likely to be killed by someone you know, not a random cop walking the beat. Everyday crime prevention and hunting for food aren't the only other reasons to own a gun. They can be used for sport, like target shooting. And home protection doesn't just mean stopping a home invasion. For example, I've lived through hurricanes where my community was without electricity for multiple days, and I'…

Heh, pulling out deadly weapons to scare off looters? That's such an overreaction. They're people, and at worst they're thieves. Nothing in that deserves having a weapon fired or pointed at you.
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