Even though I've used Debian in the Linux 2.x days, I'll always associate Ian with OpenSolaris and the opening of DTrace and ZFS first and foremost. Thanks for all the great gifts you gave us, Ian.
In Memoriam: Ian Murdock
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#202Well, it appears his arrest was real, not a delusion. This is all the information they had on VINE. https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=50... Offender Name: IAN ASHLEY MURDOCK Offender ID/CDCR:608067 Date of Birth:04/28/1973 Age: 42 Race: White Gender: Male Custody Status: Out of Custody Date: 12/27/2015 Reason:Bonded out
screenshot https://imgur.com/xrz4usb
Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock
#203He didn't commit suicide, he was killed by cops and they will make it look like suicide. Even that last tweet was planted. There are plenty of shills here trying to manipulate facts or just shut up everybody that thinks otherwise.
Do you have any facts for that? I'm inclined to think there was foul-play here, but there's no proof at the moment AFAIK, so I'll withhold judgement. No need to get conspiracy-theorist-y without proof.
Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock
#204Well, it appears his arrest was real, not a delusion. This is all the information they had on VINE. https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=50... Offender Name: IAN ASHLEY MURDOCK Offender ID/CDCR:608067 Date of Birth:04/28/1973 Age: 42 Race: White Gender: Male Custody Status: Out of Custody Date: 12/27/2015 Reason:Bonded out
Should there be a public arrest report giving a reason for the arrest too?
Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock
#205This was very recent, and the facts are not yet in. The best evidence we have to go on is his most recent tweets, captured on Pastebin ( http://pastebin.com/dX3VSPkM ). His Twitter account ( https://twitter.com/imurdock ) seems to have been deleted, which is extremely strange. Main notes: * He was repeatedly beaten by the police. He alludes to having taken photos of the injuries, and having been hospitalized, so this…
You can't just diagnose a head injury like that. There is a simpler explanation, and unfortunately possibly more probable, as to why the tweets were written like that. I don't know why you would jump to "this is murder," we don't even know if there was even really anyone else involved. I mean come on, I understand it is very tragic and sad but not everything is a grand conspiracy.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the UK, which is a common law country, the local coroner would be involved with any death that was not expected (i.e. not an older person or someone who is terminally ill and under medical care) or in which there are suspicious circumstances. That process may involve a police investigation and, independently of that, there can be an inquest. Inquests have quite a history in the case of deaths in police custody in…
Yes, a whitewash would never happen in the UK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Inquiry
Yes, I should have said 'inquests can give people another avenue in some cases'. And I should also have pointed out that the process can sometimes be very complex and take decades [1].
I wasn't trying to claim any kind of superiority for the system as operated in England/Wales. I was wondering aloud about what is supposed to happen in US/relevant state, so that I can track subsequent news, and I have the answer now from user lstyls.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephen_Lawrence
In the case you cite, it is worth noting that the Hutton Inquiry replaced an inquest, which is very unusual.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've got an idea if someone really wants to go on a hunt... This might seem incredibly nosy, but I don't think it would be too personal - check RadioReference for his city, they archive police scanner feeds, if you pay them a little, you can access the archives. If something happened and he was having some sort of mental health or drug problem, hopefully that would be mentioned, if something really did go down with t…
If the pastebinned tweets I've seen are really his then he was clearly unhinged when he made them. Whether that is due to head trauma or if the problems with the police came about because he was already having issues, I have no idea. Either way, while I totally understand his family's request for privacy, I do wish as a culture we felt more comfortable discussing things like this when they happen instead of basically…
He sounded extremely angry, but unhinged isn't the word I'd use. If what he said was true, he had every right to be extremely angry.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was in an accident and emergency ward on a friday night in a central London hospital recently. Something that took me by surprise was the number of patients there in the company of the police. They were there to be treated for injuries, rather than mental health issues, but i was impressed by the conduct of the policeman attached to the very drunk guy in the bed next to me; despite the fact that the drunk guy was s…
London police has a very good reputation. I've never had any dealings with them (despite many visits to London, a nice reflection on how they typically don't bug you without a reason) but from the people that I know that live there in general it seems like they actually take the 'protect and serve' bit to heart, contrary to many other police forces the world over.
While I'd much rather deal with the Met than any US police force, they're hardly universally loved - e.g. the riots after the death of Mark Duggan.
It helps that they're mostly not armed, apart from all the guys standing around with MP5s defending public spaces from terrorists.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the contrary: let's dig up all the links we can so that we can find out who was responsible, and prevent it from ever happening again. Just before he died, Ian had said he was going to devote the rest of his life to fighting police brutality: http://pastebin.com/dX3VSPkM Not only would we dishonor his memory by not digging up links and making speculations about what happened (did he commit suicide, possibly due to…
I should probably post this on a throwaway... but this hit somewhat close to home. A few years ago I was going through a very tough time. I lived in the UK at the time and went to california for a meetup. After even more personal crap happened, I went on a walk seriously considering suicide. Kept trying to call friends, family, nobody picked up, it was the hardest day of my life to get through. Next thing I knew I fo…
This.So this. Those of us who knew Ian and cared about him have our own responsibility to know what happened.
Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock
#210Why has the blog post been removed from Docker Blog? As far as I can tell, it was the primary source for the sad news.
My best guess would be a botched/inadvertent rollback of the content DB in response to incoming traffic. (It's back up now.)