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In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by andersonmvd »

krapp wrote: post #261
ShaggyStardust wrote: post #250

Why this thread is #3? edit: why downvoting without commenting? Obviously is "why this thread is ONLY #3".

Probably because a number of comments have been (justifiably) flagged, and given the inevitable flame-sensitive nature of the topic, the mods may have weighted it down a bit. A post's rank can be a function of any number of factors beyond just vote count, including possibly the size of the thread, and its age. Regardless, having even popular threads drop in rank is inevitable, and necessary. It seems you've gone into…

Maybe it should be changed to "Please resist downvoting comments without explaining. It never does any good, and it makes boring contributing."

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by knughit »

cc81 wrote: post #92
eliteraspberrie wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said on Twitter that police beat him up once, and then a second time after following him home. I hope there is a real investigation, this is enraging.

Of course we need to investigate but don't jump to any conclusions and start yelling about police brutality. If he had mental health problems then police can easily be perceived as they are after him and any attempt to restrain you will be seen as violence. It is really tragic but if it likely to be police brutality then the family will pursue it. If they don't pursue any action then my guess is that Ian had a mental…

I today's USA, I see no reason to assume the police story is more reliable than a potentially mentally ill citizen's story. When video evidence isn't destroyed, t tends to point to police brutality.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by dang »

rewqfdsa wrote: post #214

Is everything a slur to you people? For fuck's sake, get a life. You can't eliminate unpleasant things from the world by policing the words we use to talk about them.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10814254 and marked it off-topic.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by dang »

Nadya wrote: post #243

On the flipside, assuming he was the one posting to his Twitter, his family are disrespecting his final wishes to spark a discussion about police brutality by asking for silence and no publicity. The exact opposite of what Ian had said he wanted on his Twitter. To some people it's spitting on an open grave by denying him that last wish and that is disgusting. It's all a matter of what lens you use to view the scenari…

There are a bunch of comments in this thread that go over the line, but this is one of the worst. To say that a family that just lost a loved one are "spitting on an open grave" is such a breach of the site guidelines that (a) I am going to kill this comment outright and (b) we will ban your account if you post anything else like this to Hacker News.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10814108 and marked it off-topic.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by [deleted] »

Nadya wrote: post #243

On the flipside, assuming he was the one posting to his Twitter, his family are disrespecting his final wishes to spark a discussion about police brutality by asking for silence and no publicity. The exact opposite of what Ian had said he wanted on his Twitter. To some people it's spitting on an open grave by denying him that last wish and that is disgusting. It's all a matter of what lens you use to view the scenari…

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Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by krapp »

andersonmvd wrote: post #281
krapp wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because a number of comments have been (justifiably) flagged, and given the inevitable flame-sensitive nature of the topic, the mods may have weighted it down a bit. A post's rank can be a function of any number of factors beyond just vote count, including possibly the size of the thread, and its age. Regardless, having even popular threads drop in rank is inevitable, and necessary. It seems you've gone into…

Maybe it should be changed to "Please resist downvoting comments without explaining. It never does any good, and it makes boring contributing."

I would agree with you, but unfortunately pg decided long ago that downvoting without commenting was perfectly acceptable.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by hitekker »

Waiting can have a downside as well.

The first thing the NRA will do after a shooting is call for a "meaningful discourse" and for all the facts to come together.

They stonewall for a few weeks, weathering the storm of emotion, and then hold a press conference saying that the tragedy would not happen if there were more guns everywhere.

I personally believe there's a threshold for immediate groundswell of action, but that threshold is nowhere near being met yet. As you said, it's largely speculation right now.

Re: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock

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Post by andersonmvd »

krapp wrote: post #287
andersonmvd wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it should be changed to "Please resist downvoting comments without explaining. It never does any good, and it makes boring contributing."

I would agree with you, but unfortunately pg decided long ago that downvoting without commenting was perfectly acceptable.

So sad. Thanks for replying.
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