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Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
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Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
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I'm not sure you read my comment.
Facebook is a foreign entity going into a less developed market. It is overpowered, using its power to influence local government, and also has the power to destroy the local markets with their "free" option much like handing out free shoes to impoverished African countries. Competition is good, but Facebook has the power to completely destroy and monopolize local industries if unchecked (in less developed economies…
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Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#193On the ethics of this, I'd like to know of the engineers/team in the chain of command who is responsible for the "Something went wrong" flag set on savetheinternet.in : http://i.imgur.com/K3JUack.png Clearly this flag was not set on the grounds of pornography/violent matter/malicious link. This flag was instead set on a what is political speech, representing activists from a large swath of a democratic nation. Consid…
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Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
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I agree Facebook is doing this for their own greedy reasons, but they make one very good point: "Banning free basics on the basis of net neutrality [...] means 1 billion people cant afford to access any services." It isn't a choice between having facebook, or having the full internet. Its a choice between having facebook, or having no internet at all. Surely no internet at all, is the worst option. Nobody else is goi…
Nonsense. Facebook is rich enough and powerful enough to MAKE the choice be full-internet or nothing. They and other powerful entities can provide full internet. It is THEIR fault that the choice is FaceBook or nothing because they want that to be the choice. FaceBook is not some savior here. The ramifications of pushing everyone to FB are also devastating because they would force everyone to get locked in to using F…
> It is THEIR fault that the choice is FaceBook or nothing because they want that to be the choice.
It's Facebook's fault that many Indians can't afford the Internet? Okay...it's also Facebook's fault that there is poverty in the world. You know, poverty that spontaneously started to exist in 2004, when Facebook was founded.
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree Facebook is doing this for their own greedy reasons, but they make one very good point: "Banning free basics on the basis of net neutrality [...] means 1 billion people cant afford to access any services." It isn't a choice between having facebook, or having the full internet. Its a choice between having facebook, or having no internet at all. Surely no internet at all, is the worst option. Nobody else is goi…
You are incorrect in how you labeled your second "choice," it should be: "Its a choice between having Facebook, or having no Facebook at all." Do not let them confuse you into comparing the two... What you just said is why this sort of think makes my fucking blood boil (no anger at you friend, it's with the institution manipulating you). What they are trying to do, and this really pisses me off, is rebrand "internet"…
>> Tangent: they are making this so much worse by using government built spectrum.
About that tangent: what makes you think of restrictec spectrum as "government-built"? It's spectrum.
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#196First let's keep affordability aside and think about this. Internet is built on principles of neutrality. It is built on public property (airways, land) that government leases to companies on our behalf. Internet is what it is today because of this neutrality principle. It has given rise to so many companies out of nothingness and created so much opportunity for disruption and growth. So any We do not want to turn In…
Move fast and break things vs. Don't be evil
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#197From my Indian friends on Facebook, it appears Facebook is showing messages that certain friends of yours are supporting, or signed up for Facebook basics, even if they never did anything of the sort. It's creepy, and messed up. Edit: (Leaving the original post untouched), it appears Facebook will show you as having supported Free Basics if you clicked polls which seemed completely unrelated (as the original article…
Ah yes, the new propaganda of the 21st century: the corporations try to convince you that all your friends are supporting their proposals, and so, you should too. It works. The single most important thing for most humans is being accepted by their confederates. Pay close attention: the corporations have no scruples about manipulating you to get their way, and Facebook is no exception. A conciliatory response to this…
> convince you that all your friends are supporting their proposals
This is a serious problem, because China already showed us the end game of this tactic with Sesame Credit.
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please post those screenshots with your denial as widely as possible to expose how scammy all this is.
I did that on Facebook and on Twitter as well with added text in the image as commentary. Hell, I even called some of my friends and asked them to do the same. People here defend Facebook's actions what they don't realise is "motive", "intentions" and the modus operandi to achieve the goal. Facebook's actions and ethics are screaming foul play on steroids here.
Can you give a link to your tweet here?
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did that on Facebook and on Twitter as well with added text in the image as commentary. Hell, I even called some of my friends and asked them to do the same. People here defend Facebook's actions what they don't realise is "motive", "intentions" and the modus operandi to achieve the goal. Facebook's actions and ethics are screaming foul play on steroids here.
Can you give a link to your tweet here?
Hi, I kind of keep that Twitter username/ID and this one separate but please have a look at https://twitter.com/hashtag/SaveTheInternet and you'll find many similar ones.
Re: Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are not hearing the point. Given that Facebook is a greedy company (and not a charity), its not going to give away free full internet. So our choice is about allowing, or not allowing, a billion poor people free Facebook access. Its easy for us to say this is no good and it should be stopped because Facebook access is not as good as the full internet. But who are we to deny poor people what little they ca…
First let's keep affordability aside and think about this. Internet is built on principles of neutrality. It is built on public property (airways, land) that government leases to companies on our behalf. Internet is what it is today because of this neutrality principle. It has given rise to so many companies out of nothingness and created so much opportunity for disruption and growth. So any We do not want to turn In…
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