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Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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Back in the early 90's (in the US) I had a friend who was a college student from China. In the common area of her dorm there was a huge wall-size Rand-McNally map of the world. We were looking it over. "There's China" I said. "And there's Taiwan." "You know Taiwan is really not that big." she said. "What do you mean?" "Map makers show it larger than it really is in order to exaggerate its importance." I was a little…

It's a nice example of how powerful media exposure is. Think of the persons brain as polluted by an influence solely geared towards making their brain an extension of a political apparatus to the point where they can no longer tell reality and polluted input apart. It is very hard to maintain objectivity in todays media rich world. You too probably have pollution like that in your head - and so do I - and just like t…

Just as there are different degrees of wrong (the Earth is flat vs. the Earth is a sphere), there are different degrees of propaganda and varying severity of political indoctrination.

Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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It's not unprecedented for entire continents not having the correct size on a map. http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/cartograph... http://thetruesize.com/

That "true size" website is wildly inaccurate. I'm puzzled what the motivation is for that.

In what way is it inaccurate?

Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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post #52

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It's a nice example of how powerful media exposure is. Think of the persons brain as polluted by an influence solely geared towards making their brain an extension of a political apparatus to the point where they can no longer tell reality and polluted input apart. It is very hard to maintain objectivity in todays media rich world. You too probably have pollution like that in your head - and so do I - and just like t…

Just as there are different degrees of wrong (the Earth is flat vs. the Earth is a sphere), there are different degrees of propaganda and varying severity of political indoctrination.

Thanks. I feel like there should be a corollary to Godwin's Law: "If an online discussion mentions a problem in a non-US country, almost surely someone will point out that the US is not perfect, and is therefore just as bad as the other country."

Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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First of all, The Google case is a long story. It boils down to Google HQ, especially the three founders, didn't grant much power to local team. I remember there was a news report that one of Google China's partners was trying to lobby a chinese official by gifting gifting the latest iPad, Brin heard that and shutdown that operation completely. While I appreciate the moral high ground and respect FCPA laws, the probl…

> It boils down to Google HQ, especially the three founders, didn't grant much power to local team You sure it was that, and not China trying repeatedly (and successfully) stealing Google's source code? (Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/china-google-idUSN03258738201... ) And then hacking Google again to commit corporate espionage and steal U.S industrial secrets? (Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/s…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora

> the attacks were "orchestrated by a senior member of the Politburo who typed his own name into the global version of the search engine and found articles criticising him personally

This is the aftermath.

Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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post #52

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Just as there are different degrees of wrong (the Earth is flat vs. the Earth is a sphere), there are different degrees of propaganda and varying severity of political indoctrination.

Thanks. I feel like there should be a corollary to Godwin's Law: "If an online discussion mentions a problem in a non-US country, almost surely someone will point out that the US is not perfect, and is therefore just as bad as the other country."

Where did the US enter in to it?

Re: China Cracks Down on Politically Incorrect Maps

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I asked my Taiwanese friend about this and she said when she was a kid, Taiwanese maps would have a larger Taiwan compared to China. She said it was to make Taiwan seem more important. So there is at least some truth to what she said

That doesn't demonstrate there is truth to it, only that you found someone else who believed the absurdity.

I found someone else who claimed to have seen maps of this type, and had no reason to lie as far as I know. Especially since she is Taiwanese, and it made her own country look a little silly.
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