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Re: LibreOffice as a service offers alternative to Google Docs, Office 365

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Although you're not wrong. Excel is the killer app. Word is ALSO the killer app for heavy lifting writing papers etc. It's the program I suffered the least in during my uni years, and I tried them ___ALL___. As an investment analyst for VC, I also need to make A LOT of powerpoint presentations. Not a lot of slides, but I need to convey complex points in a short amount of slides. This makes me push Powerpoint to its l…

Hmm interesting. I have had people switch over to keynote. What do you think about that?

It sure is good :).

Re: LibreOffice as a service offers alternative to Google Docs, Office 365

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I though Europe had much better access to fast and cheap Internet compared to USA? Lowest offering from my ISP is 100/10 for around $16. No problems with HD video. Especially not with Youtube's interpretation of HD.

Europe is made of many independent countries with different regulations and different operators. In France it's €30 for triple-play, €20 for Internet only, but less than 50% have access to optical fiber. For more than half it's still ADSL. It works great if you live close to the telephone exchange, otherwise it can be very slow.

Grouping is a habit common by Americans, that I am still not able to grasp. They say Africans, Arabs, Asians, poor countries, third-world countries, Europe, Asians, etc. I specially hate it when they say I went Africa and now "The Muslims" all thrown together in politics, ugh.

Re: LibreOffice as a service offers alternative to Google Docs, Office 365

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> The standard should be seeking the best solution to a problem, not the one best aligned with any particular party's best interests. 1. That is a rather idealistic view of the world. Standards are typically set by committees comprised of multiple parties, and all entities have an agenda. Sometimes its self-interest, sometimes it's just something like "all things being equal, we prefer doing things this way", but it…

> 1. That is a rather idealistic view of the world. Standards are typically set by committees comprised of multiple parties, and all entities have an agenda. Sometimes its self-interest, sometimes it's just something like "all things being equal, we prefer doing things this way", but it undoubtedly influences the outcome. Certainly; however, making any such change needs to come with arguments that convince others and…

Regarding 1), again that is how things should be, and to people's credit, they make fair attempts towards it. But the real world is messy. As an example, very frequently there are a number of ways to achieve similar results. Then often the argument becomes "why's your way better than mine"? Each party prefers a certain approach because it's better for them for whatever reason. Hence a compromise must be reached, and this is where the wheeling and dealing begins. This is just one of many reasons why, as dragonwriter said, this becomes a political process.

While the solution you propose for 2) makes perfect technical sense, I'd say it steps too much into "inconveniencing millions of users" territory. Providing tools for migration and checking fidelity are big pain points because it does not fit into their usual workflow, which alone makes it highly unlikely to be adopted. If you wanted people to have minimum disruption, the new format would have to be a completely compliant reimplementation of the old one, and I'd guess it's inevitable that the new standard would look exactly like the old one simply because it's the path of least resistance.

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