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Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by wldcordeiro »

urs2102 wrote: post #157
ChuckMcM wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh its a lot more sinister than that, and its already here. An app I tried to run on my Android phone would run a video ad before it started, it used the front facing camera to determine if someone was looking at the phone. I looked away and started typing on my laptop and the ad paused, I looked back and it restarted, I looked away and the ad paused. I looked back and deleted the App.

It's like Black Mirror's Fifteen Million Merits[0]. If you want a great show about stuff in this space, check out Black Mirror. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

That is a great show that demonstrates sci-fi's greatest strength. Its ability to speak about our current time via metaphor, allegory, and extrapolation.

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by kbenson »

JoshMnem wrote: post #127
livingparadox wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution here is to clearly tell those apps to fuck off. Though, the latest version of android odes allow you to "allow" or "don't allow" features like that. Its the only reason that I finally installed the facebook app.

You might like this alternative: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danvelazco...

This is exactly what I need. I've made peace with the fact that Google knows much about me because I use their services and they made the OS and major apps for my phone. I have Facebook purely to get the occasional message or invite from a friend, and I hate how exposed to them I feel for needing this minimal functionality.

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by gkop »

nandemo wrote: post #153
Animats wrote: post #146

Aren't there systems for that already? Vizio's connected TV watches you, with a camera. Kinect watches you, with cameras and LIDAR. Orwell saw this coming. Winston Smith watches his exercise program: "6079 Smith W! Bend lower! You're not trying."

Nobody's forcing you to watch Netflix (or use Kinect, Facebook, etc) at gunpoint. If anything the trend of tracking/surveillance with consent is Huxleyish rather than Orwellian.

It's probably hopeless generally, but thought you might like to know that Huxley himself rejected BNW later in life and offered a new take on things in Island. So it's not really fair to the author to use Huxleyish as a synonym for BNWish. Sorry I don't have a cite, read this in a biography of Huxley that had a cite. The wiki page for Island hints in this direction though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(Huxley_novel)

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by ChuckMcM »

k1t wrote: post #140
ChuckMcM wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh its a lot more sinister than that, and its already here. An app I tried to run on my Android phone would run a video ad before it started, it used the front facing camera to determine if someone was looking at the phone. I looked away and started typing on my laptop and the ad paused, I looked back and it restarted, I looked away and the ad paused. I looked back and deleted the App.

You don't say which phone, but this behavior sounds like Samsung Smart Pause[0]. It's possible that it was not related to the app/ad vendor. [0] http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1053479

It was on my Moto-x (2015).

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by JoshMnem »

notatoad wrote: post #149
JoshMnem wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't a fanboy war. The Android permission system is terrible, and users cannot get a sense of what apps are able to do. I've used Android since Galaxy I. I've never used an iPhone.

As the parent comment says, this is now fixed. Android has moved to an iOS style permissions system in 6.0

It isn't fixed on my phone, and we've already suffered through years of it.

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by thejaredhooper »

tomsthumb wrote: post #130
entilzha wrote: post #61

My cheap/effective solution is doing a $ sleep x && pkill Chrome if I think I might fall asleep after x seconds.

See, this has been a solved problem for literally decades and this is the only comment in the whole thread that has gotten anywhere near it. The idea that I need socks that can talk to my TV for _any_ reason is just nuts.

> the idea that I need socks that can talk to my TV

when you put it that way I really don't see the appeal anymore

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by Kronopath »

urs2102 wrote: post #157
ChuckMcM wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh its a lot more sinister than that, and its already here. An app I tried to run on my Android phone would run a video ad before it started, it used the front facing camera to determine if someone was looking at the phone. I looked away and started typing on my laptop and the ad paused, I looked back and it restarted, I looked away and the ad paused. I looked back and deleted the App.

It's like Black Mirror's Fifteen Million Merits[0]. If you want a great show about stuff in this space, check out Black Mirror. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

Link to the relevant scene [kind of NSFW]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5eGo1vE41w

I can say I've had a lot of moments where I run into a situation in my actual life that makes me feel like I'm living in an episode of this show. It's a modern-day Twilight zone, and although I wouldn't say it's always a hit, when it's good, it's really good.

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

k1t wrote: post #140
ChuckMcM wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh its a lot more sinister than that, and its already here. An app I tried to run on my Android phone would run a video ad before it started, it used the front facing camera to determine if someone was looking at the phone. I looked away and started typing on my laptop and the ad paused, I looked back and it restarted, I looked away and the ad paused. I looked back and deleted the App.

You don't say which phone, but this behavior sounds like Samsung Smart Pause[0]. It's possible that it was not related to the app/ad vendor. [0] http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1053479

Good point, but any app that runs video ads before starting up is not worth keeping in any case. For that matter, any app that forces you to watch video ads, period.

Re: Netflix socks detect when you've dozed off and pause your TV show

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Post by colinwilson »

bpicolo wrote: post #8

I'm mostly sad that Netflix detects nothing and pauses my show anyway after a couple episodes. : (

I might be making this all up, I'll need to actually test it out now. I swear when watching Netflix on a computer, you start an episode and your cursor is auto-hidden. At some point, maybe even when the second episode starts, I swear the cursor becomes visible again on the screen. I then instinctively giggle my finger on my touchpad to make it hide again. After watching couple episodes in a row and doing that, if I don't I feel like it pauses and ask if I'm still there within 20 or so seconds.

Has anyone else noticed that? My theory is that they reveal the cursor after every new episode to try to get you to move it and hide it. If you do that each time, they could assume you're not paying as much attention.

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