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Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by tim333 »

joeblau wrote: post #50
tim333 wrote: post #45

I just put up http://productvote.co Just a Meteor Telescope app on Heroku at the moment. Any thoughts?

The technology it's built on is irrelevant. What makes Product Hunt is the community and the way Ryan and his team curate products. They surface the "best" products (based on their curated opinion) and that's what generates the following. Your site looks good, but are you willing to put 2 years of manually curating and scraping for products until you're successful?

There is that question... I'm not sure to be honest. I guess sites like HN work because of the community and PGs hard work setting it up. I thought I'd see if people are interested.

Could make it non profit or community owned or open source/ open admin decisions or something?

Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by yalogin »

Why is Product hunt such a big deal? Is it bigger than Techcrunch or some of these tech sites? Honestly, have not heard of it till now. This whole trip is just giving it more publicity.

I seriously want to know why someone should care about Product Hunt and what its impact and/or place is in the tech world.

Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by goldenkey »

touchofevil wrote: post #44
sergiotapia wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you an idea guy, or actually working on the code as well?

...I'm learning to code...(sound of pitchforks rustling)

For anything early enough such as an MVP, you will be utterly useless. You need a programmer. However a programmer really doesn't need you.

Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by touchofevil »

arasmussen wrote: post #53
touchofevil wrote: post #20

I'm working on a Product Hunt competitor at the moment and I'm looking for a technical co-founder. If anyone is interested, please email or DM me on twitter.

I've got an awesome idea for a cool song! Any musicians out there to play it for me?

You mean, like a band?

Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by dang »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #31
minimaxir wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, I'm referring to the "second chance" mechanics implemented a few months ago, where an article which got few upvotes may hours later get a spot on the front page and maybe get some upvotes, or when you get an email asking for an invitation to repost. Both processes require a human to determine what is "good" and what is "not good."

Ah. Are you sure it's semimanual? It seems plausible that it could be a mechanical turk. The only automatic part seems to be the shape of a post's falloff curve. But the falloff shape is probably selected from a list of shapes by a person.

What we've been doing is sort of a software sandwich with a human filling. Software does a first pass through all the stories to guess which ones might be good candidates (otherwise there are too many for humans to review). Then humans pick some candidates. Those go into a pool from which software randomly picks one every so often and randomly places it low on the front page. After that it's up to the community which ones are interesting. The ones that aren't fall off the front page relatively quickly. I've been meaning to write some code to collect data on how much frontpage time they get.

That's the current state. We do still send repost invites occasionally, but mostly not, because users made it clear they don't like the duplicates.

I don't think the human phase can be automated. Instead, our plan is to open it to the community, so it isn't just us and selected users picking stories. The challenge is to design a mechanism for that which doesn't just reduce to an upvoting system (since as the knight in Monty Python says about the grail, we've already got one it's very nice).

We'll also probably publish the list of stories selected in this way, whether or not they end up getting traction, because if nothing else it's alternate reading material.

Re: Let's Create a Better Product Hunt

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Post by touchofevil »

goldenkey wrote: post #54
touchofevil wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...I'm learning to code...(sound of pitchforks rustling)

For anything early enough such as an MVP, you will be utterly useless. You need a programmer. However a programmer really doesn't need you.

Yeah, I guess there's no way for non-programmers and programmers to work together to create a startup.
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