Can you dump Hue and use Wink? Wink can supposedly control both GE and Phillips bulbs.[1] GE uses Wink as their main control system, and GE is big enough to argue with Phillips. [1] http://www.wink.com/help/products/philips-hue-lighting-start...
From a casual look it seems that Wink just controls your existing Hue bridge, which exposes a REST API to do all the control actions.
I don't use the Hue app myself, I call the API from my automation system. Works well.
Removing features from something I already bought is bad acting every time.
To be fair, did Philips ever list that as a feature when you bought it? I purchased a few Hue products myself, but never once expected it to be an open platform or even compatible with non-Hue products (even if I wish that were the case).
"The Philips Hue system can be easily integrated with other ZigBee-based systems for additional home automation."
> and contrary to common belief, companies are self-interested; the customer's interests are important only so much as they serve the company's interests - for better or for worse The idea used to be that companies served the consumer interest, and then billed some money in exchange. When was it that companies become some self sustaining beings, with their own interest to be served? (Yeah, surely when they discovered…
I don't know if that idea was ever true. Maybe it worked back in the times when customers and sellers knew each other personally, but that must have been way before we first invented cities. The idea is certainly being taught to kids though, and it's also used to argue that the market can solve everything in a nice way.
Companies (or similar things) are probably doing this since they exist. But people used to expect them to behave and even reasonably recently (like the end of the XX century) people (normal people, even on government) used to display outrage when companies made defective products to push their bottom-line.
Nowadays that seems to be the expected behavior. But in a second thought, that looks like one of those cyclic features in society, that get worse only until people react, then get better until people get complacent.
Philips uses ZigBee, so you'll have to add the cost of an expansion board.
https://www.dresden-elektronik.de/funktechnik/solutions/wire... This one works with Raspberry Pi 1 and 2 (not zero)
Have u had success coding for this? I bought one and it is on my shelf .. Didn't find any high level language bindings. The docs didn't seem friendly. Would love it to hear cases of success.
If the important part of the bulbs to you is the remote control (and not the color changing part), any generic ZigBee Light Link or Z-Wave light bulb paired with a home automation hub (like Wink or SmartThings) will work fine.
The Wink hub (at least the current generation), is permanently rootable thanks to a flash-ROM uboot glitching trick. I have one but haven't bothered to root it yet. My goal is to use it for ZigBee wardriving. :)
> And yet, lots of people don't avoid Apple. On one hand, having to use Apple's proprietary Lightning connector sucks. On the other, having Apple be heavy handed with iOS App Store submissions means I have a higher confidence with my iOS Apps behaving compared to those I install on my Android Device.
The Lightning connector being proprietary does suck, but it's far and away the best mobile device connector I've used. It's small, easy to connect, and disconnects fairly easily on tug. USB-C is pretty nice, but for similar feature set you have a much larger connector.
Lightning and USB-C aren't really comparable because USB-C supports USB 3.1 while Lightning is limited to USB 2 speeds for everything, including video out. Which means that Apple have to compress the video out and stick an entire ARM SoC in their very expensive AV adapter to decompress it, and this degrades the picture quality. By comparison, USB-C can carry uncompressed HD video, power, and a fast USB 3 data link at the same time using (at least in theory) cheap, mostly-passive adapters.
Surely with the Pi Zero selling at $5 there has got to be way to do this without Philip's locked in, expensive system?
I understand that in order to pair with Zigbee devices, you need the Zigbee Light Link master key which is only given to licensed manufacturers of ZLL-based products. I also understand that said key leaked a while back and is all over the internet.
I have been consistently disappointed by Philips Hue ever since I purchased the $200 starter kit a year and a half ago. Numerous iOS app updates have rendered the system useless (lack of basic QA), slow to adopt HomeKit and price gouging for it (they want users to buy an entirely new Hub for $60).
Only because Apple requires HomeKit accessories to be MFi-certified, which requires a DRM chip. Can't add a chip via firmware update..
> that one company who gets majority of revenue from hardware I hope you are not referring to Apple, because compared to other companies , iPhones and iPads are the one who can run current software on older devices with almost no issues. Samsung and other android manufacturers on the other hand have not supported older devices at all until recently (and even now not as good as Apple does). My first gen iPad still run…
Looks over at my first gen iPad stuck back on iOS 5... It still works fine, but it's hardly because Apple are doing me any favours (past building a good product back in 2010, and "supporting it" with OS updates until 2013...)
iPad 2's performance on iOS 9 makes me wish they had made something around iOS 5-6 into an LTS version for older devices.