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Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by qb45 »

RyanZAG wrote: post #123
exelius wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking that if you're in the market for a $3600 Internet-connected fridge, you can afford and would just rather have the iPad. I don't know enough about the Fire to say whether it's a piece of garbage or not; all I know is that I have a bunch of iPad apps that I've paid for and Apple's ecosystem makes it easy to add another iPad and transfer my settings over.

Humans are pretty funny! Going off the usual price for apps ($2.99?), and a 'bunch' is probably about 25 apps, then replacing all your paid iOS apps with paid Fire apps would probably cost you $75. So ignoring anything else, a lot of people would actually value their $75 sunk app costs greater than the $350 difference between that iPad and the Fire. It's a pretty interesting lesson in humanity.

Except that it takes some time and effort to look up substitutes and install and configure them again.

And there is always this one little app whose substitute would be perfect if only it didn't miss this one little feature.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jdmichal wrote: post #162
TeMPOraL wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like they don't buy e-books, or smart TVs? Like they didn't buy that cloud-connected laser cutter that'll brick itself when its makers go out of business[0]? It's been proven time and again that people buy against their best interest; that's why this business model is becoming popular. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10272483

To be fair, smart TVs still work as TVs, even if the entire "smart" portion is broken. I'm entertaining buying a new TV soon, since mine is on the out after almost 10 years. I'd prefer to buy a non-smart TV, but honestly all the top models include it now, so it's pretty much unavoidable.

You've just described how this scenario most likely will play out with othe appliances if producers decide to go the rental way. People may stay with their old ones... until they break, then it's time to buy a new one, but there's no non-"smart" appliance on the market anymore.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by VLM »

jaynos wrote: post #92
makecheck wrote: post #23

I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…

Same reason why GPS feature in a car is useless. I'm using google maps on my phone anyway due to the better interface and constant updates.

My wife uses her phone in cars with built in GPS because the mfgr assumes cars can only carry one person at a time, so for "safety" they lock out GPS access unless the car is in park, even if the operator is sitting in the passenger seat. So I drive and she navigates with her phone, or her phone talks to me, or whatever.

Another thing I've noticed is take anything fast, implement it in software, and latency becomes a killer. Software is so terrifyingly slow compared to hardware. Its hard to believe that people who write disgustingly slow UIs are in the same industry as people who write anti-lock brake code or real time fuel injection code.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by coldpie »

thedudemabry wrote: post #152
makecheck wrote: post #23

I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…

I was recently in the market for a newer SUV and the thing that struck me about every single touchscreen jammed into them was how obsolete they would seem in the near future. Even now, they're clunky and unappealing visually. My microwave has a MyPlate.gov button on it. May have seemed like a good idea when our home's previous owner renovated back in 2011, but it's silly now. My "smart" TV has an app called WebVideos…

Last winter I walked into a Subaru dealership, ready to plunk down for a brand new Impreza. I live in Minnesota. I wanted AWD and I know how hard it is to find used Subarus, especially when you insist on a stick shift. So I figured I'd just give in and buy new.

They didn't have any of the 2015 models at the time, so we test drove a 2014 model. Except for the inadequate number of pedals, it seemed fine. I was ready to place an order. Then the dealer, who was riding with us, said "and the new 2015s will all have the new infotainment stuff!" "Oh," I said, knowing he meant a shitty touch screen. "Can you show me?"

We get back to the dealership and he walks me over to some other, larger model with the new infotainment system. He sits down, turns the key, and what do I see on the infotainment system?

A loading bar.

I walked out and bought a 2011 Mazda3.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by r00fus »

nkrisc wrote: post #108
Splines wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a "smart" washer and dryer. I booted the companion app up, briefly considered what I was actually trying to do, and abandoned the whole thing. At least the things work just fine in an unconnected state. Not to be all "get off my lawn", but some things don't need to be smart.

This is why I go out of my way to be appliances that have no "smart" capability whatsoever. They're useless and I'll probably never use it. I got my 55" TV for hundreds of dollars cheaper than the comparable "smart" varieties, simply because it only did the one thing it was any good at anyway: displaying video output.

The problem is, you'll likely get "smart" features thrown in "for free" (read priced into model) if you want a decent screen in the future.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by rpgmaker »

codemac wrote: post #130

The problem here is not the refrigerator, or the software on it. I repeat. The problem here is not the refrigerator! We're building a shitty internet, not an internet of shitty things. If integrating with an online calendar means having to have a software team at the ready at all times for the whim's of some service's API updates.. we have failed society in a deep way. The API that Google should be releasing for Goog…

It's difficult to read these comments without thinking that all of you are being sarcastic.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by dewitt »

codemac wrote: post #130

The problem here is not the refrigerator, or the software on it. I repeat. The problem here is not the refrigerator! We're building a shitty internet, not an internet of shitty things. If integrating with an online calendar means having to have a software team at the ready at all times for the whim's of some service's API updates.. we have failed society in a deep way. The API that Google should be releasing for Goog…

FWIW, Google Calendar does support CalDAV:

https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/caldav/v2...

It also supports a richer API, for features that don't fit into CalDAV:

https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/overview

While I tend to agree with what I think is your point, it's all well and good to say that there's a standard and one should use it (which I support, and have worked on many throughout my career), but standards aren't a panacea either, especially since many of best standards are ones that standardize a previously proprietary (but working!) design.

(No relationship with the calendar team, but I'm pretty sure they'll read this thread if you have comments for them.)

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by philwelch »

steven777400 wrote: post #142
agrot3ra wrote: post #136

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I use the Navigation on my 2015 Mazda 3 everyday. It's the most functional car GPS I've ever used and has way better directions for me as a new driver than Google Maps. For example, a mile before a left turn it'll tell me to bear left instead of the way google suddenly springs it on me half a mile before a turn on a super busy road during a traffic jam. Instead of having to glance at my phone every little bit it disp…

The concern isn't a current model-year vehicle, it's the replacement time of cars (and appliances in general) vs technology. Presumably, a 2015 car should be good for at least 10-15 years. How will your car's navigation system stack up in 2020 (just 5 years away)? Will it still be your go-to choice? I think the claim is that mobile technology improves much faster than the replacement/upgrade cycle for cars, so a car'…

Maybe if the navigation system were designed to be replaceable, like the radio.
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