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I thought that was the whole point of going with Android|Apple Auto vs the manufacturer's homebrew: at least you'd get updates for a few years.
Good point, but I just don't see it ending well either way.
Why?
Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator
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I feel like people would just not buy these theoretical ridiculous appliances and just stay with older ones until the appliance manufacturers started making normal appliances again.
Like they don't buy e-books, or smart TVs? Like they didn't buy that cloud-connected laser cutter that'll brick itself when its makers go out of business[0]? It's been proven time and again that people buy against their best interest; that's why this business model is becoming popular. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10272483
To be fair, smart TVs still work as TVs, even if the entire "smart" portion is broken. I'm entertaining buying a new TV soon, since mine is on the out after almost 10 years. I'd prefer to buy a non-smart TV, but honestly all the top models include it now, so it's pretty much unavoidable.
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Not just that, but I can't wait for the day I can only rent my appliances and have to have a monthly subscription to some GE "Smart Appliance Network" for them to even work.
I feel like people would just not buy these theoretical ridiculous appliances and just stay with older ones until the appliance manufacturers started making normal appliances again.
They might. Or more likely you'd see early adopters buying these, then gradually companies would shift more and more of their models to this approach. Suddenly, only the ugly, low-end crappy models work the "traditional way."
Then -BAM-, anyone who wants a decent looking model with decent functionality is stuck paying rent.
Companies have many consumer-hostile tools to force people to do things that is against their best interest. And mark my words they are salivating at the thought of all that recurring revenue.
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#164I guess we know our place socially don't we? "The upper-class kitchen, designed to be entered only by servants, is identifiable at once: it's beat-up, inconvenient, and out-of-date, with lots of wood, no Formica whatever, and a minimum of accessories and labor-saving appliances like dishwashers and garbage disposals. Why tolerate these noisy things when you can have a silent servant do precisely what they do? The upp…
Seems to be this book: http://www.amazon.com/Class-Through-American-Status-System/d...
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#165I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…
Anybody who has ever had a TV/VCR combo knows to avoid multi-function appliances.
I have one of those, works OK, but it has a Y2K bug that makes it hard to program to record shows. I don't use it very often though.
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"Please stand by for message from our sponsors who help keep your food fresh." ...
If it means the fridge is free, I'd be happy to add some firewall rules upstream :)
If you're not paying for it, you are the product. Now, please get back into the fridge.
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I do appreciate my car GPS for when I'm outside of cell range though (which is frequently--mountains and radios don't work well together).
A mistake I'll make only once: driving to Montreal only to realize my phone was useless once I got to the city limits and needed to figure out how to get to my hotel.
If you start the navigation ahead of time it'll keep going even if you're offline. It caches the route and gps waypoints. Worked great on my trip from NYC to Quebec City.
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"Your ice maker comes free with licenses for up to 1,000 cubes a year! For only $8.99 a month, you can enjoy up to 5,000 cubes. Add crushed ice for an additional $2.95. Cancel anytime."
Don't give them any ideas.
I think there's an episode in a Ray Bradbury short story where a character argues with his door because it won't let him in because he hasn't paid the subscription for his door lock.
The take away is that IoT under capitalism is going to suck.
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#169The problem here is not the refrigerator, or the software on it. I repeat. The problem here is not the refrigerator! We're building a shitty internet, not an internet of shitty things. If integrating with an online calendar means having to have a software team at the ready at all times for the whim's of some service's API updates.. we have failed society in a deep way. The API that Google should be releasing for Goog…
But its also unacceptable to make an Internet connected device with a static proprietary OS on it.
We have a dozen known vulnerabilities in common software packages every year, and these devices are using IP for communicating often confidential information. It can be disastrous for your toaster to be hijacked, especially if it can be remoted no and burn your house down.
This whole IoT disaster should have been predicated on free software, with some protocol support for authorized local network updates and maintenance. You know damn well that if Samsung cannot be bothered to update the OS on a four year old phone anymore, your Samsung Fridge or TV or futon is a lost cause.
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Step 0) Disconnect any phone or network cables and ensure RF jammers covering WiFi and cell frequencies are active before commencing home appliance repair.
As IoT becomes more ubiquitous, the people who plaster their houses in tin foil will become less ridiculous.
I was reading recently that there's a special type of paint you can use on the walls of your house to block wifi signals, essentially keeping your wifi contained within your walls and keeping the noise level down by blocking your neighbours' wifi.