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Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan
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You might want to report that. Knowingly profiting from crimes is still illegal, so you might be liable, too.
I doubt it's a crime to not charge VAT.
Tax fraud/evasion is very definitely a crime. VAT is just another tax.
If you can’t prove that you told Google that you are a private person using a business account, you might end up having to repay and end up with a fine.
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#43Spotify does not have family plan ? Such a bullshit - http://i.imgur.com/BGhi6uk.png . This is what I call paid article. Good job, TechMunch.
Why was this comment flagged? It contains factual criticism and provides even sources for why a statement given in the article is wrong.
That’s most definitely "contributing to discussion".
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I don't think it's arbitrary; Google Apps is an enterprisey product, where stability is prioritized over new features. Regular people who want to use their own domains are an exception, and certainly not the market they are going after. I say this as someone who has used Apps in the past, but I've given up on it since.
I fail to see how enabling a different billing plan for a music streaming service they already offer to Apps customers has anything to do with "stability" of the core products that enterprise users rely on.
The codebase of the billing system might very well be separate and require updating.
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Is forwarding mail to your personal gmail account from the domain registrar, postfix, or whatever else you use considered hokey? It works really nice in all instances I've done that. It even replys from the same address mail was sent to once you verify you own the email address.
Forwarding to gmail often ends up with the forwarding mail server getting blocked from gmail, because you end up forwarding spam you've been sent as well.
In my Google Apps control panel I can declare a "gateway" where mail will come from which avoids this: https://support.google.com/a/answer/60730?hl=en
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#46Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…
A couple of years ago, I created a plain old GMail account and transferred all of my mail to it, mainly so I could get all of the Google Now features that Apps accounts didn't have yet. I still send as my own email address, but I never log into Google Apps account because Google Apps accounts are terrible. I highly recommend abandoning your account. Use a real GMail account. There's a one time switching cost, and it'…
The switching cost is considerable and not realistically achievable for anyone that has embraced the Google world beyond email.
I would have to migrate:
* Android app purchases.
* Android apps that use the Google account for identity.
* Data in Google Fit
* Data in Google Maps including reviews and ratings of restaurants and places visited (which I find useful when I re-visit a city)
* Data in Google Calendars
* Address that others use for Calendar invites
* Address that others use for Google Drive shared folders
* Google Drive data, including configuration of permissions on folder access
* Google Photos, including configuration of permissions. These are photos going back to 1996, 100k+ photos.
* Browser sync
* Browser stored data, passwords and autofill
* Android backup
* Google Keep
* Group memberships
* Group ownerships, and somehow move those groups
* YouTube videos uploaded, and preferences
* Android TV apps and configuration
All of that, is just what I have on my Google Account that is on a Google Hosted domain.
And even if it were possible to somehow migrate that... I would most definitely lose all of the history that so much of that represents. i.e. Google Fit history, Maps Timeline history and so on.
Others may have it worse than I, I haven't got anything in Google+.
All of this works, and it works really well. It's a great offering, and I'm a much happier consumer paying for this than not.
But... it's silo'd. Even intra-family every one of us has our own account.
We were really hoping that Google Hosted gave us a path to treat our family as an organisation and to share within... but that's not how it's panned out.
So we've been hoping that Play Music for Families represents the ability to create a shared group for the family, just a group with a couple of accounts, and these can share stuff. Starting with Music, but hopefully eventually reaching Photos, TV, Video, etc.
Instead it does look like the definition of "Family" is "Gmail accounts", not "a small group of immediately related individuals"... and in that latter definition, who cares whether an individual has a Google Hosted account?
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#47Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…
Doesn't use of the Google Apps stuff mean your content is not scanned for ads? Certainly you don't get ads when you're using the mail.
Google is an advertising company. This Apps thing is a side business. They're going to focus on bringing features to the users they are selling ads against. Users who aren't generating ads are going to be an afterthought.
You can argue that they should pay you more attention if you are paying for the Google services but as a practical matter this company is focused on ads, not on satisfying paying customers.
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#48Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…
Doesn't use of the Google Apps stuff mean your content is not scanned for ads? Certainly you don't get ads when you're using the mail. Google is an advertising company. This Apps thing is a side business. They're going to focus on bringing features to the users they are selling ads against. Users who aren't generating ads are going to be an afterthought. You can argue that they should pay you more attention if you ar…
The paid plan of Play Music is an ad-free product.
Play Music for Families is paid for, and advert free.
Your argument does not apply to this product.
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I think it's a decent argument to say there is substantial revenue to be gained. But by claiming Google will hit 100M users paying $10 per month seems lofty unless there's something really unique about an ad free Youtube experience. Netflix has under 40M subscribers paying ~$8 per month right now.
Youtube has really cranked up the ads to the point that this becomes an attractive proposition.
Adblockers are still effective against this.
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A couple of years ago, I created a plain old GMail account and transferred all of my mail to it, mainly so I could get all of the Google Now features that Apps accounts didn't have yet. I still send as my own email address, but I never log into Google Apps account because Google Apps accounts are terrible. I highly recommend abandoning your account. Use a real GMail account. There's a one time switching cost, and it'…
The switching cost is considerable and not realistically achievable for anyone that has embraced the Google world beyond email. I would have to migrate: * Android app purchases. * Android apps that use the Google account for identity. * Data in Google Fit * Data in Google Maps including reviews and ratings of restaurants and places visited (which I find useful when I re-visit a city) * Data in Google Calendars * Addr…
Fantastic comment. Thankfully I don't have an Apps account so this isn't really a concern for me, but it's almost scary to see the list you provided, it made me realize just how truly entrenched I am to Google's ecosystem. I use almost every feature you listed. At a certain point moving away from Google's ecosystem just because unfeasible because you come to rely so heavily on certain products in your day-to-day life.