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Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

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Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

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Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…

I shouldn't even be surprised anymore when this happens, yet I still am. Why is what is fundamentally a different billing method restricted by account type? It feels completely arbitrary.

There's a discussion on this going on over at Google's product forums [1]. Tons of people are in the same boat. These are some of the most devoted users of Google's products, yet are continually left frustrated and left out of new products for seemingly no apparent reason.

And no - migrating to a regular @gmail.com address isn't really feasible. I'd have to manually export all of my playlists, library, favorites from Play Music and countless other products.

[1] https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/play/86WVa8b_3i...

Project Fi is another service I'd love to sign up for, but my Google Voice number I've been using for years is associated with my Apps account, and I'm not about to start another number and start switching between Google accounts all the time just to use it.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

#33
post #16

Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…

A couple of years ago, I created a plain old GMail account and transferred all of my mail to it, mainly so I could get all of the Google Now features that Apps accounts didn't have yet. I still send as my own email address, but I never log into Google Apps account because Google Apps accounts are terrible.

I highly recommend abandoning your account. Use a real GMail account. There's a one time switching cost, and it's worth it.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

#34
post #2

Yet another service not available to Google Apps users. :/ "You can only set up a family group with a personal Google Account, not a Google for Work or Google for Education account"

They're lazy. I use Google Apps for personal, family members. Google asked a few times if I'm sure I'm not a business. I said I'm not. In the end, without asking anymore they stopped billing VAT because I'm a business. Well... OK.

You might want to report that.

Knowingly profiting from crimes is still illegal, so you might be liable, too.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

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post #16

Sigh. Yet another service not available to Google Hosted domains. I run my own domain, happily pay for it, for 1TB of storage for Photos, for Google Play Music, for apps, for films. But yet constantly excluded from some services and features, and never knowing whether some features will even come to my account. Seemingly all because I wanted to keep the same email I've had since 1997. They could easily add this capab…

I shouldn't even be surprised anymore when this happens, yet I still am. Why is what is fundamentally a different billing method restricted by account type? It feels completely arbitrary. There's a discussion on this going on over at Google's product forums [1]. Tons of people are in the same boat. These are some of the most devoted users of Google's products, yet are continually left frustrated and left out of new p…

I don't think it's arbitrary; Google Apps is an enterprisey product, where stability is prioritized over new features. Regular people who want to use their own domains are an exception, and certainly not the market they are going after.

I say this as someone who has used Apps in the past, but I've given up on it since.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're lazy. I use Google Apps for personal, family members. Google asked a few times if I'm sure I'm not a business. I said I'm not. In the end, without asking anymore they stopped billing VAT because I'm a business. Well... OK.

You might want to report that. Knowingly profiting from crimes is still illegal, so you might be liable, too.

I doubt it's a crime to not charge VAT.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

#39
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes sense actually. Google Apps is for work users so you don't want to share it with your family I guess. I'm using Google Apps actually but I don't expect Google allow me to share my account with my family.

Google Apps is the only way to get an email via Google at my own domain. They used to officially support this as a method to get a consumer account with a custom domain, but not anymore as they market it only for businesses. And even if, as you say, it is "for work", why does Google force that decision upon me, the owner/operator/admin/sole employee of my one man organization? Why can't it just be a check box that sa…

And even if, as you say, it is "for work", why does Google force that decision upon me, the owner/operator/admin/sole employee of my one man organization? Why can't it just be a check box that says "I really just want a custom domain. Please let me use the cool things you make"?

Probably because it's not just a matter of marking it enabled. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if they used two separated branches of the codebase, only merging features from regular services into Apps after they are more stable.

Re: Google Begins Rolling Out Google Play Music Family Plan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I shouldn't even be surprised anymore when this happens, yet I still am. Why is what is fundamentally a different billing method restricted by account type? It feels completely arbitrary. There's a discussion on this going on over at Google's product forums [1]. Tons of people are in the same boat. These are some of the most devoted users of Google's products, yet are continually left frustrated and left out of new p…

I don't think it's arbitrary; Google Apps is an enterprisey product, where stability is prioritized over new features. Regular people who want to use their own domains are an exception, and certainly not the market they are going after. I say this as someone who has used Apps in the past, but I've given up on it since.

I fail to see how enabling a different billing plan for a music streaming service they already offer to Apps customers has anything to do with "stability" of the core products that enterprise users rely on.
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