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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#121

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

I disagree. I think the market is HUGE. Content creation is a big deal.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#122

This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

The point of this isn't having infinite royalty-free music, it's the technology. The royalty-free music part is just a easily-implemented, temporary application that gives it a business purpose, while they try to build up the technology into something great. There's a lot more applications to good music generation than royalty-free music.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#123
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> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…

The program wouldn't own the copyright, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the company which made the program would own the copyright. It could end up public domain. E.g. the recently infamous selfie by a monkey was ruled public domain, having been produced by a non-human. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie

I don't get that monkey selfie ruling. If the photographer deliberately gave the monkey a camera to take pictures, shouldn't the photographer be the owner of it? If the monkey isn't a legal entity, why is it considered the creator? If I dropped my camera on the floor and the button got pressed, is the floor now the creator of the image? If I set the automatic-timer function on my camera, is the timer mechanism now the creator of the image?

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#124

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3 million dollars is nothing. It took a million dollars to make a single very low-quality video game, circa 2008. Salaries are expensive. The investment model is set up to let founders "burn through" money while they explore new approaches to old industries. The investors don't really care that the money is lost. To be an investor, you have to assume 9 out of 10 of your investments will be write-offs. So if you're no…

I have actually helped a company where our initial interaction was via an internet comment, so don't make assumptions. Stating market reality is not being harsh, there is an abundant supply of royalty free music available at a very low cost or for free. If you're demoralized because someone states the facts of a competitive market than that is very unfortunate and you're not really fit to be an entrepreneur in a high…

I actually will like to see them do something novel and great with their technology.

As a developer, occasional FPS gamer, and musician, I'd like to see them tackle adaptive generative music that is actually convincing. I want music that takes cues from the gaming environment without obvious loop splicing points and without feeling mechanical.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#125
post #84

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Wow. I think this is the perfect example of "failure of imagination" GoPro is a $2.5B company based around low cost equipment for amateur film makers. They produce film editors that let you edit your films around per-licensed sound tracks. Let me say that again - you make your film around the sound track they supply . The opportunity for Jukedeck isn't competing with the thousands of individual composers 1-on-1. It i…

But that's how most editors work anyway, even Hollywood ones - if they don't have a score to work with they take temp music from some film they already like and later commission something similar. I'm not sure why you think this is such a radical concept.

Of course the concept isn't radical. The difference is that it is suddenly a scalable business.

At the moment the per-unit cost of per film is constant. If software "composes" the music then the per-unit cost drops with each additional user.

That's the radical thing.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have actually helped a company where our initial interaction was via an internet comment, so don't make assumptions. Stating market reality is not being harsh, there is an abundant supply of royalty free music available at a very low cost or for free. If you're demoralized because someone states the facts of a competitive market than that is very unfortunate and you're not really fit to be an entrepreneur in a high…

I actually will like to see them do something novel and great with their technology. As a developer, occasional FPS gamer, and musician, I'd like to see them tackle adaptive generative music that is actually convincing. I want music that takes cues from the gaming environment without obvious loop splicing points and without feeling mechanical.

Yes, that was I was expecting.

1. I upload a video 2. Jukedeck finds me the perfect audio for it.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#127
post #125

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But that's how most editors work anyway, even Hollywood ones - if they don't have a score to work with they take temp music from some film they already like and later commission something similar. I'm not sure why you think this is such a radical concept.

Of course the concept isn't radical. The difference is that it is suddenly a scalable business. At the moment the per-unit cost of per film is constant. If software "composes" the music then the per-unit cost drops with each additional user. That's the radical thing.

At the moment the per-unit cost of per film is constant.

But it's not. There's considerable spread in the price of music depending on the quality, specificity, popularity, and licensability* of what you want to buy.

* up to a particular number of copies made, or with restrictions on sublicensing or other contractual factors.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#128
post #70

Does anyone (perhaps a music theorist) know what rules determine what notes sound well following each other/together? I find an interesting parallel between 1/2/4/8 repeating beats/parts in songs, and binary...

My background is in music theory, and, as others have commented here, this is a question that there's no clear, agreed-upon answer to yet. Music theory can tell us what composers tend to do - which chords they choose should follow each other, which notes to use when - but it's not as good at telling us why those chords / notes sound good together. In building Jukedeck, we're applying our own theories about what makes…

> In building Jukedeck, we're applying our own theories about what makes good music.

Have you thought about applying also common patterns found in the best selling hits? Hooktheory has a nice DB for this:

https://www.hooktheory.com/api/trends/docs

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

#130
post #113

It'd be interesting as a musician that often plays just by myself if I could record and upload it somewhere and have something to add accompanying music. So say a guitar track, and have an "AI" that could add drums & bass that fit the timing.

I think that's sort of the idea of Microsoft's Songsmith.
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