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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Everything is already created. In regards to the Library of Babel, you can even search the library to verify this. (There is an extended Library that contains entire novels to be searched - the web version is a bit smaller/limited to pages.) It's already there it just needs to be found . That's the entire point!

This is a false claim. The Library of Babel is far from complete; the site itself only claims completion up to 3200-character texts. And that's limited only to lower-case alphabetic letters, periods, commas, and spaces. So there is still a vast amount of possible texts that haven't yet been created.

Irrelevant. It includes numerous works within those constraints that would ordinarily be subject to copyright. I tried it with a variety of short poems I know, both in and out of copyright, so there's more than enough amterial here for a test case, even though it doesn't include all possible material.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…

Wow.

I think this is the perfect example of "failure of imagination"

GoPro is a $2.5B company based around low cost equipment for amateur film makers. They produce film editors that let you edit your films around per-licensed sound tracks.

Let me say that again - you make your film around the sound track they supply.

The opportunity for Jukedeck isn't competing with the thousands of individual composers 1-on-1. It is building a platform that generates sound tracks automatically, and selling the platform as software both to end users and sub-licensing it to companies like GoPro.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…

Their marketing copy puts it into a murky area, too. "You have control over your music, so you can create tracks that do exactly what you want." That certainly implies you're the creator, in the same way that an artist who uses tools in Photoshop to make a picture owns the copyright on the picture, rather than Adobe (or perhaps more pertinently, someone who uses Garageband loops to construct a song owns the copyright…

That could imply that you have a license to use the work, rather than ownership.

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Add MIDI export and I'm sold...

That's a great idea - can I ask what you'd want to use the resulting MIDI for?

What @m1sta said... As a starting point for music production. Royalty free 100% original is a huge selling point if you know where is most needed.

The market for a tool like this is decent sized, specially for Electronic Music. You could also bake the technology in a VSTi or AU (although the webapp a la beatport might be much better), or even license the technology to big players in the music production space, like Apple, Yamaha, Sony, Steinberg, etc

Tip: ask here for opinions https://www.gearslutz.com/board/

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Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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post your tracks people, I want to hear more :D

Here are some:

https://www.jukedeck.com/share/719dc9ccb6488e44bc5a5019ac6e4... https://www.jukedeck.com/share/fa3ed812e6710a48f8abcf2392be7... https://www.jukedeck.com/share/4f6b44bd50d958a0c00c4044248f5...

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is already created. In regards to the Library of Babel, you can even search the library to verify this. (There is an extended Library that contains entire novels to be searched - the web version is a bit smaller/limited to pages.) It's already there it just needs to be found . That's the entire point!

This is a false claim. The Library of Babel is far from complete; the site itself only claims completion up to 3200-character texts. And that's limited only to lower-case alphabetic letters, periods, commas, and spaces. So there is still a vast amount of possible texts that haven't yet been created.

The Library of Babel that is online has those limits, yes. Which is why I explicitly mentioned I wasn't referring to the website.

>(There is an extended Library that contains entire novels to be searched - the web version is a bit smaller/limited to pages.)

The creator has variations of the code that aren't online. For example, lower-case alphabetical letters was a choice to "remain true to the original concept" but a base64 variation that allows for capital letters is possible. Furthermore - searching for entire books rather than being limited to 3,200 characters is also possible. Also other languages would also be possible but require further variations of the code.

It's just having this work on the web to a website that sees 30-40k daily visitors because the algorithm isn't fast enough to meet those demands.

[0] https://libraryofbabel.info/forum/?bbp_user=1&bbp_reps=1&pag...

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Rate limited in posts. My reply to the below is as follows:

Your claims only hold for the web version. I was not speaking of the web version. So you are explicitly wrong. There is a version of the library that is not limited to those characters, that is not limited to lowercase Latin alphabet, and is not limited to being searched 3,200 characters at a time. So what are you contending by making such statements?

Yes. The web version is held to those limits. Which is why I explicitly mentioned I was not referring to the web version. Your claims only hold against the web version. So I'm not seeing the point you are trying to make here.

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I hate how HN rate limits like this. :)

I'll concede that. Does ASCII art of a Chinese character represent the same information as the Chinese character? That's stretching things so I'm not making that as a counterpoint - but more of a thought experiment.

For example: https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?ygofnzdyjijlsc299

Re: Show HN: Jukedeck – create unique, royalty-free music for your videos using A.I.

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What happens if write a program to generate all data in the world? 000000 000001 000010 000011 000100 Do I own every file?

I remember someone created a P2P file sharing system that used 'munges' of files to create blocks of data by themselves that have no meaning (a bit like http://monolith.sourceforge.net/ ). These blocks were then transferred around the network, and people could claim "I'm not transferring files, I'm transferring meaningless blocks of data". Sure, but (and I'm not a lawyer), intent of law is just as important as the li…

Illegal numbers!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

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