Add MIDI export and I'm sold...
That's a great idea - can I ask what you'd want to use the resulting MIDI for?
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#42When I first read the headline this is what I was hoping for. Auto generated, upbeat, electronic music, that continuously changes, which I can listen to it all day while at work. I need music playing all day, and these days I've been trying to find electronic music that is non-memorable yet upbeat so that it's motivating but not distracting. Instead I got a 5 minute long song. For my needs, I'll stick with soundcloud…
That's a really good idea, and something we'd love to provide. We've only set the 5-minute maximum in v1.0 - there's no reason we couldn't give people access to more extended music. Hopefully when we do you might be able to use it at work!
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#43This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…
On the other side, if the generated tracks are 100% original, this tool could be of invaluable help for music producers looking for quick inspiration. As an amateur music producer I'd be willing to pay for this if MIDI export is added.
I think the project is great, maybe they haven't found the right niche just yet. Hint: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=midi+loops
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
They probably would only have copyright over what they create, not everything they could create
Everything is already created. In regards to the Library of Babel, you can even search the library to verify this. (There is an extended Library that contains entire novels to be searched - the web version is a bit smaller/limited to pages.) It's already there it just needs to be found . That's the entire point!
This is a false claim. The Library of Babel is far from complete; the site itself only claims completion up to 3200-character texts. And that's limited only to lower-case alphabetic letters, periods, commas, and spaces. So there is still a vast amount of possible texts that haven't yet been created.
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#45It sounds like one of those recursive ANN things. On the scale of seconds, it's quite good. But there's no higher-level structure. For "folk", this is obvious; for ambient, you'd probably never notice. The goal for this technology is to beat the two guys who write most popular music.[1] Another few years. [1] http://nypost.com/2015/10/04/your-favorite-song-on-the-radio...
I'm glad you like it on the scale of seconds! Higher-level structure is definitely a challenge, and is something we're working on.
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#46This is a business I know well. Jukedeck is an example of how founders and investors do not conduct appropriate market research. There is a limited market demand for low-cost royalty-free music for videos. One could argue there is an oversupply* of royalty-free music relative to buyers. The quality is not good enough to disrupt the billion dollar Production music industry that is top heavy, a relative small amount of…
On the other side, if the generated tracks are 100% original, this tool could be of invaluable help for music producers looking for quick inspiration. As an amateur music producer I'd be willing to pay for this if MIDI export is added. I think the project is great, maybe they haven't found the right niche just yet. Hint: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=midi+loops
That's a very interesting target, although It's doubtful it will meet the needs of their vc investors. It is an interesting project, but it is in the wrong target market.
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#47According to their pricing page ( https://www.jukedeck.com/pricing ), you can use the track free of royalty, but if you want to actually own it, you have to pay $199. But this falls kind of in a gray area. If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright (and thus, have the right to sell it)? In December 2014, the United States Copyright Office stated that works created by a non-human are not subj…
> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…
> the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop
Why doesn't then Adobe own result of whatever "autofix colors" produces?
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#48I think it would be pretty cool to have this as a streaming service. Let me listen to it as it is generated, and then slice out pieces if I really like them.
That's a really interesting idea. Generating streams is something we're thinking seriously about, so it's good to hear it might be useful.
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#49Would be awesome to be able to make small edits (lower or replace an instrument), but congrats on the solid execution of a cool idea!
Thanks a lot. That's something we hope to be able to offer soon!
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If the AI created the tracks, why does the company own the copyright Uh, do you think there's a sentient being here? Its just a relatively simple algorithm here (at least compared to sci-fi style AI), the same kind of thing that decides how to autofix colors in photos or do a transform in photoshop. Dynamic music generation has been a thing since at least the 80s. I think I had an Apple// program that did this. >wo…
There is no point in the process where a human puts a creative stamp on the result. Your chiptunes did. This is effectively a fancy PRNG tuned to create appealing patterns. Copyright doesn't apply to non-creative works.
The author of the work created the scenario which resulted in the work. There was intent, effort, and creativity involved in this.