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HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by dogma1138 »

samstave wrote: post #43
sageabilly wrote: post #34

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Which would add a significant up-front cost that would have to be shouldered by the data recovery company. Potentially an issue for small shops (which most data recovery companies are.)

Get one of those vacuum sealing luggage bags, cut holes in side and glue in some rubber gloves into these holes. Put drive and tools in. Vacuum seal it, then Fill with helium you get from the party store. Wear gloves, pickup tools and dismantle drive.

Or just buy a biosaftey glovebox they start around the 2000$ mark http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nuaire-NU-704-300-Biological-Isolati...

And pressurize it with helium or a noble gas.

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by davidandgoliath »

chefkoch wrote: post #16
dangrossman wrote: post #7

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They come with a 5 year warranty and 2.5M hours MTBF rating, which says something about the manufacturer's opinion of their reliability.

That hasn't really helped the 3TB seagate constellation drives...

Seagate has really gone downhill in that respect, though it's worth noting their enterprise grade stuff is still reasonable (ymmv).

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

rsync wrote: post #31
JungleGymSam wrote: post #30

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> If you're not sure what this means, our product is Not For You. Hey, thanks! I stopped reading there. :)

We both win!

I agree with this.

However, it would be nice to know a little about the company. I perused your website, but didn't see any pages about the company history and current employees. Did I miss that? I did finally see the "CEO page", but it doesn't seem to be linked from the main page. It also appears to be something a technical person shows their CEO, rather than something that is about the CEO of rsync.net. I also didn't even see a physical address displayed anywhere.

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't feel comfortable dealing with such a black box business situation.

Perhaps you need to add a second disclaimer?

   If you want to know who you're doing business with,
   our product is Not for You.

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by davidandgoliath »

rsync wrote: post #28
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #11

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Whats your current storage in a 4U chassis?

45 drives @ 4TB, but we create 15 drive raidz3 vdevs, so we lose 3 drives per vdev ... so (45-9)*4 = 144TB.

Curious — what sort of iops do you get out of a setup like that?

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by hga »

davidandgoliath wrote: post #62
chefkoch wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That hasn't really helped the 3TB seagate constellation drives...

Seagate has really gone downhill in that respect, though it's worth noting their enterprise grade stuff is still reasonable (ymmv).

You mean their almost certainly doomed by flash drive 10K and 15K drives? (A class of drive I've been using since 1995 and just stopped buying new ones; in fact, a 15K Savio mirrored system disk recently failed and I replaced both with an Intel enterprise SSD rather than send it in for warranty repair. So far I'm not looking back.)

Officially, Constellation drives are "Enterprise", 5 year warranty (which still works well, did that on a 2TB drive last year I think), available in SAS as well as SATA interfaces. Although they're now saying that you shouldn't transfer more than 550TB of data per year through the best of this class of drives.

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by rsync »

PhantomGremlin wrote: post #63
rsync wrote: post #31

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We both win!

I agree with this. However, it would be nice to know a little about the company. I perused your website, but didn't see any pages about the company history and current employees. Did I miss that? I did finally see the "CEO page", but it doesn't seem to be linked from the main page. It also appears to be something a technical person shows their CEO, rather than something that is about the CEO of rsync.net. I also didn…

We just redesigned our website and I guess our old "about" page didn't make it in the redeploy.

FWIW, I'm John Kozubik, owner and founder, and we started offering this service in 2001 as an add-on to JohnCompanies colocation (the first VPS provider)[1][2]. We spun rsync.net out as a standalone entity in 2006.

Address is 524 San Anselmo Ave., Suite 107, San Anselmo, CA 94960. Although data is housed in either San Diego, Fremont, Denver, Zurich or Hong Kong datacenters.

[1] Yes, really.

[2] We called them "server instances" - someone else coined "VPS" and it stuck.

Re: HGST beats Seagate to market with helium-filled 10TB hard drive

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Post by chefkoch »

hga wrote: post #65
davidandgoliath wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seagate has really gone downhill in that respect, though it's worth noting their enterprise grade stuff is still reasonable (ymmv).

You mean their almost certainly doomed by flash drive 10K and 15K drives? (A class of drive I've been using since 1995 and just stopped buying new ones; in fact, a 15K Savio mirrored system disk recently failed and I replaced both with an Intel enterprise SSD rather than send it in for warranty repair. So far I'm not looking back.) Officially, Constellation drives are "Enterprise", 5 year warranty (which still works…

In a 8 disk nas i replaced 6 oft them in one year because of bad smart data. Some lastet only Werks before marked as faulty. This series is really bad.
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