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Re: Swift is Open Source

#51

Post by espadrine » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:48 PM UTC

Linux support is hinted at in examples:

  #if os(Linux)
  import Glibc
  #else
  import Darwin.C
  #endif

https://swift.org/package-manager/#example-usage

Re: Swift is Open Source

#52

Post by codeshaman » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:49 PM UTC

cdnsteve wrote: post #33

How is developing on iOS these days? Swift seems like such nice a nice language.

Swift is a very nice language. And it's pretty easy to learn too - it took me about 2 weeks to get the basics of it and in 1 month I was producing code at the same speed as with Objective-C.

After a couple of months of Swift-ing, I now started a project in C++ and while it's nice to be back home (in the C++ world), I immediately feel like I'm on my own - C++ doesn't make any attempt to protect me from myself (although it feels like I have more power to do what I want).

The Swift compiler, on the other hand, will obsessively stop me from fitting a square into a circle and will only allow me to do that if I declare loud and clear that "I know what I'm doing!".

Re: Swift is Open Source

#53

Post by skrause » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:50 PM UTC

espadrine wrote: post #51

Linux support is hinted at in examples: #if os(Linux) import Glibc #else import Darwin.C #endif https://swift.org/package-manager/#example-usage

I guess the fact that there are official Linux packages in the download section are a pretty good hint that there will be Linux support.

Re: Swift is Open Source

#54

Post by sswezey » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:51 PM UTC

espadrine wrote: post #51

Linux support is hinted at in examples: #if os(Linux) import Glibc #else import Darwin.C #endif https://swift.org/package-manager/#example-usage

Linux support was listed as a design goal for open sourcing Swift @ WWDC

Re: Swift is Open Source

#55

Post by mikeash » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:51 PM UTC

espadrine wrote: post #51

Linux support is hinted at in examples: #if os(Linux) import Glibc #else import Darwin.C #endif https://swift.org/package-manager/#example-usage

Linux support was officially announced as part of the open source announcement, and Linux downloads are explicitly listed on the site. No need for hints.

Re: Swift is Open Source

#56

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:51 PM UTC

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Re: Swift is Open Source

#57

Post by ehPReth » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:52 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #56

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Here's an archive.is mirror of the swift.org index page: https://archive.is/L0J97

Re: Swift is Open Source

#58

Post by harperlee » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:53 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #45

harperlee wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the poster's web page says he works at IBM...

Oops. I did try to check his site, but it was coming up blank for me.

Your theory might still stand. He may know people at Apple, so this does not completely discard the scenario.

Re: Swift is Open Source

#59

Post by hiimnate » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:53 PM UTC

sdegutis wrote: post #48

They're releasing the source code to libdispatch? I thought that was one of Apple's trade secrets, and more applicable than just Swift apps since it's a C lib?

libdispatch has been open source since 2009

https://libdispatch.macosforge.org/post/libdispatch-is-open-...

Re: Swift is Open Source

#60

Post by espadrine » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:55 PM UTC

skrause wrote: post #53

espadrine wrote: post #51

Linux support is hinted at in examples: #if os(Linux) import Glibc #else import Darwin.C #endif https://swift.org/package-manager/#example-usage

I guess the fact that there are official Linux packages in the download section are a pretty good hint that there will be Linux support.

Thanks, I'm trying to download it.