Swift is Open Source • Hacker News Board

sinatra wrote: post #17

This is good news (hoping the github link etc will start working in a day or two)! One side effect of swift being open sourced is that more developers will start looking at it for server side development. However, I personally think that Swift will continue to have strong reliance on Apple (esp considering that most external Swift developers will come from iOS development). So, till I see Apple showing interest in Sw…

esp considering that most external Swift developers will come from iOS development

I am wondering about this. To me, it seems that there is still space for a modern, pragmatic language that compiles to native code. Coming from C and C++, I have been using Go recently for applications where garbage collection and some performance loss due to a relatively weak compiler is acceptable.

However, I still find the lack of parametric polymorphism tedious and annoying as well as other stuff you'd come to expect from a modern language (algebraic data types, non-nullable types, etc.).

Does anyone who has experience with Swift think that it could be a better language for the niches Go has gained traction? (Besides iOS/Mac development?)

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by jug » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:37 PM UTC

Wow, Swift.org is getting hammered right now.

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by Ygg2 » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:38 PM UTC

sdegutis wrote: post #29

talles wrote: post #21

Page not found on GitHub? https://swift.org/source-code/ https://github.com/apple/swift

They changed their mind. EDIT: I'm joking of course. More likely, they realized they accidentally forgot to excise some incredibly sensitive private information from the repo's history and are working fast on it before they make the repo public again.

It seems to be down due to traffic.

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by ihuman » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:38 PM UTC

It looks like Apple is also releasing an official package manager for swift.[1] I wonder how that will effect Cocoapods.

[1] https://swift.org/package-manager

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by connorshea » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:38 PM UTC

zmanian wrote: post #28

Wonders about the state of Swift on Linux? Was expecting this to be timed with the open source announcement.

There was a blog post about porting it to Linux before the site went down, so it looks like they're supporting it with this release.

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by connorshea » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:39 PM UTC

Swift Package Manager? It looks like Apple has developed their own version CocoaPods for Swift? Interesting.

Re: Swift is Open Source

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Post by sdegutis » Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 3:40 PM UTC

Ygg2 wrote: post #36

sdegutis wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They changed their mind. EDIT: I'm joking of course. More likely, they realized they accidentally forgot to excise some incredibly sensitive private information from the repo's history and are working fast on it before they make the repo public again.

It seems to be down due to traffic.

https://github.com/apple/swift wouldn't appear non-existent due to traffic.