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My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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That has been going on since the dawn of IT. It is a red flag for a management team (or recruiter) that doesn't really know what they are in search of.

Unless they are a startup.

No, it still applies there. There is absolutely nothing special about a startup than there is for any other small business.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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It is more likely your kids will have no job.

That would be in a perfect world..

Really depends on how it comes about. Does it work like Star Trek, or does it work like The Hunger Games?

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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Yes that is the elephant in the corner of the so-called "sharing" economy - who is paying their taxes, who is paying for the basic infrastructure that all these services piggyback on? You can't have Uber without well-maintained roads for example. You can't even have AirBnB without refuse collectors.

What makes you think they don't pay taxes? AirBnB has even been forced to collect hotel taxes in SF, besides the regular taxes that all companies pay.

That's one city. They operate in a hell of a lot more places than just SF.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #10

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Base income does not come out of nothing though. You need state income, which depends on taxation, which depends on people working and consuming.

Can you consider not needing to work at all? Let's imagine that machinery/robots can make all manpower obsolete. Why would you still need to work if everything could be provided without cost? Why would you need money at all? Couldn't you just lay back, relax and enjoy? The answer is no, just because human nature doesn't like equality. Nothing more.

The answer is because the automation still costs money, and that, even if creating clothing was completely automated, the materials would still cost money, and as such, they'd still charge for the clothes. And unless you've got a job (or basic income, but I don't believe that's ever going to happen), you're not going to be able to pay for the clothes, no matter how cheap they are. Same with food. Even more so for housing.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #73

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What makes you think they don't pay taxes? AirBnB has even been forced to collect hotel taxes in SF, besides the regular taxes that all companies pay.

That's one city. They operate in a hell of a lot more places than just SF.

The "even" is not in my post by chance.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #67

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As a proponent of a universal income, I think that's where a lot of the debate fizzles out, and rightly so. Developing a UBI within the status quo framework of centralized government and the dollar (another highly centralized social institution) would be misguided and would completely inhibit the potential of such a system. A real UBI would be a distributed network, which is incompatible with such highly centralized…

Any materials out there on ways implement this? I'd love to read up on it further.

I'd recommend Critical Path and Grunch of Giants by Buckminster Fuller (1895-1983). Fuller was the former president of the Mensa society and claimed that a universal income became technically feasible in the 1970's.

Critical Path:

http://www.btronics.com/files/R.%20Buckminster%20Fuller%20-%...

>World Game makes it clear that the world electrical systems' energy-network integration and its comprehensive powering of automated, special case machinery would most effectively counter the peril of overspecialization of the humans and would introduce the omni-Universe-operative, time-energy, kilowatt-hours-per-year, commonwealth accounting system. This cosmic accounting will computer-establish the up-to-the-moment-realized cosmic-energy-income-harnessing thus far accomplished; and the technical-efficiency levels attained in the various energy-employing technologies operative around the world; and the resultant per capita individually employable world commonwealth facilities; and the per capita "consumable," "employable," and "enjoyable" "credits" in respect to any specific consumables, commodities, services, conveniences, or tools as manifest on the satellite-relay-integrated world computers and as individually called for and read out on each individual's electronic computer "credit card." The individually available information will govern the individual's design science choices of the highest relative-efficiency systems to be employed. It will also tell people whether they can do this or that, and if so, how they can go most swiftly— for instance, from New York to Australia—and will "book" a travel reservation and will prepay the bill for the travel accommodation. All such in- formation is continually computer-integrated to produce the commonwealth evaluations and their read-out-ability on world-individual's pocket-computer "credit card." These will always register the world individual's share of the ever-increasingly-employable technological savings reserves and their respective technologically operative capabilities. With humanity employing such a world-around, satellite-relayed, and world-integrated computer accounting system, the world can, overnight, physically realize the "Omnibillionaire Commonwealth" of its humans.

Grunch of Giants:

https://tripinsurancestore.com/4/grunch-of-giants.pdf

>There exists a realizable, evolutionary alternative to our being either atom-bombed into extinction or crowding ourselves off the planet. The alternative is the computer-persuadable veering of big business from its weaponry fixation to accommodation of all humanity at an aerospace level of technology, with the vastly larger, far more enduringly profitable for all, entirely new World Livingry Service Industry. It is statistically evident that the more advanced the living standard, the lower the birth rate.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #66

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Not necessarily. Pepsi and Coke have both built quite legal relationships with a number of institutions like universities and fast food chains with the agreement that competitor products are not served. My university was a "pepsi campus", you couldn't buy coke products anywhere on campus. This is why people have to ask "do you serve coke or pepsi?" at restaurants. Of course this has far fewer effects that social netw…

"This is why people have to ask "do you serve coke or pepsi?" at restaurants." OT, but this is why news anchors have to say "the obesity rate in the US has risen to its highest level ever, scientists reported today."

Why? Because people drink soda at restaurants?

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #62

> it seems strange to me that we would always recommend to companies that their revenue streams are diverse, yet for individuals, the smallest and most fragile economic unit, we say: you must only do one thing all your life. What a crazy way to live; 87% of people in full-time employment are not passionate about what they do. When I look at this new way of work, I think of it as opt-in. It gives people economic agenc…

Let's hope the "gig economy" people will actually be able to get a safe cubicle job in a decade. To me it looks like this option is systematically being eroded. Pensions are gone and I think steady employment for good salary will slowly go away too. And the node.js hotshots who think there will always be high paying jobs for coders like them should have gone through 2000. The fall can be quick and deep.

Re: My father had one job, I've had six, my kids will have six at the same time

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post #43

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All of those govt paid employees are paid by you... their employer. Not the govt. The govt owns nothing nor employees anyone.

The government owns things and employs people as much as any corporation does, and as much as the government exists at all.

The govt is a structure which answers to the people and is supposedly for the betterment of the people. The government exists only because you consent to be governed. At any given moment you can revoke that consent. This govt hasnt been looking out for the peoples interests in a long time.
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