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The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by ascorbic »

guelo wrote: post #102
morsch wrote: post #53

Having read the article I was left with the assumption that pretty much all commercial orange juice contained these "flavor packs". This does not seem to be the case: http://www.toxinless.com/orange-juice Maybe don't buy your orange juice from subsidiaries of the Coca Cola company and Pepsico, as a starting point. Also interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/2684u1/ysk_t...

Or water. I've always found Dasani to have a suspiciously consistent and unique flavor and mouth feel.

Dasani is tap water that has been purified with reverse osmosis and then remineralised.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by cobweb »

beloch wrote: post #87

"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…

Fibre is more than roughage, it helps nurture the microbiome.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by pdkl95 »

kuschku wrote: post #91
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite right, which is why I never drink juice, and suggest you don't either.

Or you drink juice mixed with a lot of water. Often even the Schorle sold in stores has too much juice, average seems to be at 60%[1], I prefer more like 30%. In the recent years, 5% to 10% Schorle has become increasingly popular. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apfelschorle

An interesting type of (approximately) zero sugar drink is mixing bitters with {,cabonated} water. In particular, a dash or two of Peychaud's Bitters in soda water is almost like a floral (gentian) "kool aid"-style drink without the excessive sweetness.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by kuschku »

yitchelle wrote: post #94
kuschku wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did that at Edeka in Germany recently. It was the only time I bought orange juice that literally tasted fresh made. Well, because it was ^.^

Did the same thing at our local fruit store. They have a machine similar to this one. https://www.flickr.com/photos/zumoval/10671215065 The juice tastes amazing, and the sweetness level is much lower. Albert Heijn in the Netherlands is also big on these machines. We use it every time we visit.

Exactly the same kind of machine! :D

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by cobweb »

If I ever buy shop bought tomato pasta sauces, there is a flavour in most that repulses me. It's something I can't recreate with home cooking. So this post does make me think that it could be something like a flavour pack. I always thought it was a preservative.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by anon4 »

guelo wrote: post #102
morsch wrote: post #53

Having read the article I was left with the assumption that pretty much all commercial orange juice contained these "flavor packs". This does not seem to be the case: http://www.toxinless.com/orange-juice Maybe don't buy your orange juice from subsidiaries of the Coca Cola company and Pepsico, as a starting point. Also interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/2684u1/ysk_t...

Or water. I've always found Dasani to have a suspiciously consistent and unique flavor and mouth feel.

I'll just remark that for water, I do want to drink a pure chemical, possibly with a little bit of minerals in, if it can't be helped.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by cobweb »

The home vs shop bought items rings true. I can make a bean burger without much effort. And I have a good idea what went into it. But if I buy one, I'm not sure how old the ingredients are, how long they have been stored and what other processes those foods have been through.

I have gotten it into my head that these are pretty much low-nutrition non-foods, and as such, I only eat them on the rare occasion.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by skybrian »

chrismartin wrote: post #117
skybrian wrote: post #108

Another lesson is that if you're going to buy industrial food (and it's something we're all going to do sometimes since it's an efficient way to make convenient food available at scale), it's better to go with something that doesn't hide what it is. It's one reason why I'm a fan of Soylent. I hope it starts a trend where we get we get honest industrial food instead of fake natural food. I'm not not at all convinced t…

I really like Soylent and what Rosa Labs is doing, but I don't believe that they are a paragon of transparency. Some countries (e.g. Australia) require food products to be labeled with the percentage of each ingredient by mass, not just a list of ingredients in descending order, and I don't see that on my Soylent pouches. As demonstrated by OP's example, "honest industrial food" is incompatible with the economic prin…

We can still support companies that are more open than the minimum required by law. I think it will be a long time before it's mainstream, but it may be enough to keep a niche market going.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by [deleted] »

avar wrote: post #96
usaphp wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard many times that ordering a freshly squeezed juice from those machines is not so safe, they need to clean them pretty often to prevent E. coli and other dangerous pathogens from spreading, and since the machines that are squeezing this juice are not kept in refrigirator while operating - spreading this pathogens becomes an easy task

You've "heard many times"? It's obviously safe enough that an entire country has one in every supermarket. Do you think that the health & safety service in The Netherlands is so bad that it wouldn't be noticed if these things were causing regular E. coli outbreaks?

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