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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by DanBC »

grecy wrote: post #14
jinushaun wrote: post #8

I know this article is trying to "scare me with science," but it actually makes me proud that science allows for orange juice year round. Fresh is always better than not fresh, but this is something we as a society should be proud of, not ashamed.

When that "fresh" OJ has a fraction of the nutritional benefits of the real thing, is it even the same thing? EDIT: https://www.google.com/search?q=nutritional+value+of+jurice+... (Change Juice type to Orange

There's not much nutritional benefit to actual fresh squeezed juice either. Current recommendations are don't bother, but restrict yourself to a small glass if you do, and only count 1 glass as one of your five a day, and more glasses don't count.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by evgen »

meursault334 wrote: post #35

I've wondered why the fresh orange juice machines you see in Spain commonly are never seen in the United States. Is there a food safety law that prevents this or is it just a matter of preference?

Some places in the US have them, but usually they are commercial units. For most Americans that shop for staples one every week or two a gallon of pasteurized juice that keeps for two weeks under refrigeration is great compared to oranges that would not last nearly as long. OJ is a common component of breakfast but our shopping habits do not support fresh juice.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by morsch »

Having read the article I was left with the assumption that pretty much all commercial orange juice contained these "flavor packs". This does not seem to be the case: http://www.toxinless.com/orange-juice

Maybe don't buy your orange juice from subsidiaries of the Coca Cola company and Pepsico, as a starting point.

Also interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/2684u1/ysk_t...

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by [deleted] »

badloginagain wrote: post #43
Niten wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim that deoxygenated orange juice has a fraction of the nutritional benefits of hand-squeezed juice is an assertion that needs to be backed up with evidence, not blindly assumed.

I charge you with the opposite task- prove industrial orange juice is healthier than juice squeezed from an orange.

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by stickfigure »

manmal wrote: post #39
SunShiranui wrote: post #6

Is there any actual evidence that MSG should be "cause for concern"?

There is a balance to be kept by the body between GABA and glutamate (oversimplification). The former is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, and the latter is excitatory. So - it really depends. If your nervous system is overexcited, having glutamate (doesn't matter whether from natural or lab-made sources) might be a bad idea. If you are pretty balanced or have a GABA surplus, you'll be fine. BTW this balance does seem…

Current scientific evidence indicates that glutamate does not cross the blood brain barrier. While glutamate is very active in the brain, it does not appear that consumption has any effect.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

kazinator wrote: post #38

If the juice is based on the use of flavor packs, then it is, to some extent, "made from concentrate"; if it is labeled as "not from concentrate", then that is a flat out lie.

I suspect "concentrate" simply has a legal definition that excludes flavour packs - in fact, doesn't the article say as much? The tricky thing about labeling is that there's obviously a line and the level of detail required will vary according to the beholder. I suspect there are far worse offenders in the food industry and, as the article implies, drinking fruit juice anyway isn't automatically a 'healthy' option; the concentrate/non-/flavour-pack distinction is probably relatively insignificant.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by pmoriarty »

jinushaun wrote: post #8

I know this article is trying to "scare me with science," but it actually makes me proud that science allows for orange juice year round. Fresh is always better than not fresh, but this is something we as a society should be proud of, not ashamed.

The article is not about "scaring you with science". It's about accuracy and honesty in labelling.

Don't label something "natural" or "100% fresh juice" if it's not.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by batiste »

pmoriarty wrote: post #15
gruez wrote: post #10

> I’m not questioning the health or merit of added chemicals (“natural” or “synthetic”) Oh good, I thought you were afraid of chemicals >I’m questioning the health or merit of so-called foods that are so devoid of flavor or color that we have to add back in chemical flavorings and colors to make them palatable. Wait what? I thought you weren't questioning the health or merit chemicals? People like orange juice (more…

When consumers buy juice labelled "natural" or "100% juice" they expect juice that hasn't had anything added or taken away from it, especially not something that doesn't actually exist in nature. The article was written to inform consumers about what they're actually getting and how they're getting deceived.

"Natural" has pretty much 0 value as a label. What is natural and not natural would vary depending on which person you ask the question on the street... This is just marketing.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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pmoriarty wrote: post #15
gruez wrote: post #10

> I’m not questioning the health or merit of added chemicals (“natural” or “synthetic”) Oh good, I thought you were afraid of chemicals >I’m questioning the health or merit of so-called foods that are so devoid of flavor or color that we have to add back in chemical flavorings and colors to make them palatable. Wait what? I thought you weren't questioning the health or merit chemicals? People like orange juice (more…

When consumers buy juice labelled "natural" or "100% juice" they expect juice that hasn't had anything added or taken away from it, especially not something that doesn't actually exist in nature. The article was written to inform consumers about what they're actually getting and how they're getting deceived.

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by [deleted] »

gruez wrote: post #10

> I’m not questioning the health or merit of added chemicals (“natural” or “synthetic”) Oh good, I thought you were afraid of chemicals >I’m questioning the health or merit of so-called foods that are so devoid of flavor or color that we have to add back in chemical flavorings and colors to make them palatable. Wait what? I thought you weren't questioning the health or merit chemicals? People like orange juice (more…

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