Which means that all the data minimizing the scale of the blocking was a lie, people are massively blocking ads and the whole ad industry is dying faster than its player want to admit.
Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
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Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#62Axel Springer is not the only publisher that’s taking a confrontational approach to dealing with ad blockers, The FT recently reported. U.K. newspaper City AM banned ad blockers from its website; U.K. broadcasters ITV and Channel 4 have now done the same; and the Washington Post redirects readers to a subscription page, or asks them to sign up to newsletters, or disable their ad-blocking software. Even Yahoo has gott…
I'm totally in favor of this type of solution. The go-to justification around here is "it's my computer, I'll use it to display anything I want, just because you served me data over HTTP doesn't give you the right to dictate what's on my screen." I think it's is a pretty compelling argument, but if we're being fair then the provider should have the right NOT to serve you data based on what you intend to do with it.
> I think it's is a pretty compelling argument, but if we're being fair then the provider should have the right NOT to serve you data based on what you intend to do with it.
As an ad-blocker: I absolutely agree, however, there's no shortage of people offering me the same exact content elsewhere. Basically, supply and demand end up in the consumer's favor.
Likewise: "...essentially all of the ad supported sites I visit are diversions" - https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/AdSupportedWebD...
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#63Axel Springer is not the only publisher that’s taking a confrontational approach to dealing with ad blockers, The FT recently reported. U.K. newspaper City AM banned ad blockers from its website; U.K. broadcasters ITV and Channel 4 have now done the same; and the Washington Post redirects readers to a subscription page, or asks them to sign up to newsletters, or disable their ad-blocking software. Even Yahoo has gott…
I'm totally in favor of this type of solution. The go-to justification around here is "it's my computer, I'll use it to display anything I want, just because you served me data over HTTP doesn't give you the right to dictate what's on my screen." I think it's is a pretty compelling argument, but if we're being fair then the provider should have the right NOT to serve you data based on what you intend to do with it.
It's kind of a non-solution when said data is available through so many other providers, though. I don't have an ethical issue with it at all, I just don't see it being effective.
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> U.K. broadcasters ITV and Channel 4 have now done the same Have they? Just went to their sites, no indications there.... is it just mobile?
No. Try playing some video content on C4, if you're running any kind of adblock, it refuses to play. There was a bit of an 'arms race' back when it was first introduced between C4 and developers on the internet. C4 won, adblockers simply won't work on their site, video ads are unskippable and every 5 mins or so.
Just to clarify: Every five minutes? How big are these ad spots, just curious?
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Even Yahoo has gotten in on the action, blocking users from their email when they have AdBlock running. Wait, really? Users can't read their email if an adblocker is installed? I can't imagine what mother would do if she ran into a error message like that while trying to check her email (but she doesn't use yahoo).
Wow really? I hadn't heard that (and never used yahoo), that's just straight crazy.
I just logged into my all-but-abandoned yahoo account's webmail in Chrome with Ghostery set to block all, then in Chrome again but with AdBlock at default settings (and Ghostery disabled), then in Safari with uBlock (my default) and none of the sessions prevented me from seeing my mail. In fact, Ghostery and AdBlock in Chrome still displayed a Yahoo sponsored ad at the top of the list of unread messages much like GMail's top-ad. uBlock did not show that Ad.
I call false on this claim, but the sample size here is beyond insufficient to draw a wide conclusion.
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#66I started using iOS ad blockers on day one. Judging by the amount I have to recharge - I'm on pre paid - I use about 50% of the data I used to and spend proportionally less. I also stopped using the Twitter and Facebook apps in favour of the mobile web sites. I only see Twitter ads now. There really needs to be another model.
Totally agree. The ad-subsidised business model is flawed on so many levels. Personally the biggest one for me is that the evolution of ads moves less away from information and more towards emotional manipulation. Question is - what other model? Would you give money to news?
personally I wouldn't, but that's because I can get the news via 1000 other sites for free. I freely admit it's not fair, but I'm not sure what the answer is
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#67i was more startled to learn in passing that yahoo was blocking people's email if they blocked ads. that one seems particularly desperate, given how the last thing yahoo needs now is more reasons for people to abandon them.
That's weird, because I use yahoo mail, and have adblock installed and I've never had a problem accessing my email.
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#68I started using iOS ad blockers on day one. Judging by the amount I have to recharge - I'm on pre paid - I use about 50% of the data I used to and spend proportionally less. I also stopped using the Twitter and Facebook apps in favour of the mobile web sites. I only see Twitter ads now. There really needs to be another model.
What ad blocker are you using? You comment inspired me to start using one on my iphone, but, as usual, the App store is full of garbage and I have no idea which one is the real deal.
I'm using Peace (RIP) and Crystal at the moment.
But I hear 1Blocker is good and also very fast. It has an in app purchase to unlock all the features. Otherwise it is limited to one block list at a time.
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#69My solution is pretty simple: censor axel springer and their websites from my entire network. Blockr or not, nobody on my network and VPN needs to see their filthy pages anymore.
> on my network and VPN
Do you run a network other people use? Are you really going to censor Springer because of a personal opinion?
Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle
#70My solution is pretty simple: censor axel springer and their websites from my entire network. Blockr or not, nobody on my network and VPN needs to see their filthy pages anymore.
> on my network and VPN Do you run a network other people use? Are you really going to censor Springer because of a personal opinion?
Well those axel brats are suing out of personal opinion too, your point?