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Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by Arnt »

iMerNibor wrote: post #8

It's pretty stupid what they try to do to get even more money They somehow managed to get a law in place which prohibits quoting of even small passages online (i.e. Google News) without paying for it. What did Google do? Simply removed them from the results, they tried to sue and lost. Now they gave Google permission to include them for free. What about the smaller services? Who cares about those - loads of news aggr…

Even more money? The delicious graphs at http://www.bildblog.de/auflage.php show twelve consecutive years of decline. That's not "even more money".

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

I started using iOS ad blockers on day one. Judging by the amount I have to recharge - I'm on pre paid - I use about 50% of the data I used to and spend proportionally less.

I also stopped using the Twitter and Facebook apps in favour of the mobile web sites. I only see Twitter ads now.

There really needs to be another model.

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by 1ris »

Arnt wrote: post #11
iMerNibor wrote: post #8

It's pretty stupid what they try to do to get even more money They somehow managed to get a law in place which prohibits quoting of even small passages online (i.e. Google News) without paying for it. What did Google do? Simply removed them from the results, they tried to sue and lost. Now they gave Google permission to include them for free. What about the smaller services? Who cares about those - loads of news aggr…

Even more money? The delicious graphs at http://www.bildblog.de/auflage.php show twelve consecutive years of decline. That's not "even more money".

That's only offline sales. They know this business is dead and aggressively push their online services.

I don't see a downward trend in their over-all profits: http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/451654/umfrage...

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by 1ris »

CBABIES wrote: post #10
justusw wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

There are hundreds of ad blockers. They aren't desperate. They're stupid.

They only need one original precedent. If they get that, apple will have to stop all the others.

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by qb45 »

beedogs wrote: post #3

So, they've already lost in the German courts vs. ABP; why do they get to keep going after other companies with the same bogus arguments?

Quite obviously, they are trying the American model of suing everybody in sight again and again until they give up.

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by krylon »

beedogs wrote: post #3

So, they've already lost in the German courts vs. ABP; why do they get to keep going after other companies with the same bogus arguments?

I guess they hope eventually a judge will confirm their ridiculous position, and then they can go "See!?!? We told you so!" and once again go after ABP.

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by zuzun »

1ris wrote: post #14
Arnt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more money? The delicious graphs at http://www.bildblog.de/auflage.php show twelve consecutive years of decline. That's not "even more money".

That's only offline sales. They know this business is dead and aggressively push their online services. I don't see a downward trend in their over-all profits: http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/451654/umfrage...

> Größter Wachstumstreiber ist das Geschäft mit Kleinanzeigen im Internet wie Immobilien-, Job- und Autoportalen. Hier verfolge Springer eine "sehr aggressive Wachstumsstrategie", sagte Döpfner. Das Ergebnis in diesen Rubrikenmärkten kletterte binnen Jahresfrist um 35,2 Prozent auf 221 Millionen Euro und steuerte damit rund 44 Prozent des gesamten Konzerngewinns bei. [1]

But most of their profits are generated by their online markets for cars, houses and jobs, not their digital journalism.

[1] http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article138064544/Digitalstrate...

Re: Axel Springer Goes After iOS 9 Ad Blockers in New Legal Battle

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Post by facepalm »

iMerNibor wrote: post #8

It's pretty stupid what they try to do to get even more money They somehow managed to get a law in place which prohibits quoting of even small passages online (i.e. Google News) without paying for it. What did Google do? Simply removed them from the results, they tried to sue and lost. Now they gave Google permission to include them for free. What about the smaller services? Who cares about those - loads of news aggr…

"Now they gave Google permission to include them for free. What about the smaller services? Who cares about those - loads of news aggregators shut down in response."

Sounds as if it worked out beautifully for Springer - the competition is gone and they are included with Google again.

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