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Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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"Ms. Mayer called a meeting with senior executives in August and asked them to sign a written agreement to stay with the company for at least three more years, according to two people familiar with the meeting." Is such an agreement enforceable? Or is this some meaningless pledge? If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive.

Probably not. If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive. I keep seeing this sentiment, but I think it's important to distinguish between "don't give your people worthless equity instead of a good salary" and "I'm just here for the money." Starting to see a lot of the latter around here and it's disheartening. Sure, broken dreams and failed visions and all of that happens, but it's part of the…

> "I'm just here for the money"...it's disheartening

Yaa, how awful...because my landlord accepts a share of my company CEO's "vision", as does my grocer

> Widespread cynicism will kill high-tech

What a laugh that the heirs, the LP's, the VC's and seeds and angels aren't the cynics, your unhappiness is the twenty-something wage slaves slaving away at all hours building products are now disheartening, because they're buying the BS less and want to keep more of the wealth they're creating.

The heirs and LP's are not "here" for the money. They're in their yachts at Key West, and they have their bets spread.

Woe is us, how disheartening that the people creating the wealth want to keep more of the wealth they create, as opposed to believing the fairy tales the idle class and their myrmidions are telling them.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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post #23
post #9

"Ms. Mayer called a meeting with senior executives in August and asked them to sign a written agreement to stay with the company for at least three more years, according to two people familiar with the meeting." Is such an agreement enforceable? Or is this some meaningless pledge? If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive.

It's not enforceable. In the US, you can't enforce an employment contract if it involves forcing someone to work for you. This was partially legislated as a legal defense against indentured servitude.

What about retention bonuses?

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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post #9

"Ms. Mayer called a meeting with senior executives in August and asked them to sign a written agreement to stay with the company for at least three more years, according to two people familiar with the meeting." Is such an agreement enforceable? Or is this some meaningless pledge? If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive.

Talk about a gun to your head. If they don't, I can only assume they are short-listed under the "Not Loyal" column. Definitely curious about what sort of carrot/stick might be attached to such an agreement to make it even worth attempting that tactic.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

#54
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not. If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive. I keep seeing this sentiment, but I think it's important to distinguish between "don't give your people worthless equity instead of a good salary" and "I'm just here for the money." Starting to see a lot of the latter around here and it's disheartening. Sure, broken dreams and failed visions and all of that happens, but it's part of the…

> "I'm just here for the money"...it's disheartening Yaa, how awful...because my landlord accepts a share of my company CEO's "vision", as does my grocer > Widespread cynicism will kill high-tech What a laugh that the heirs, the LP's, the VC's and seeds and angels aren't the cynics, your unhappiness is the twenty-something wage slaves slaving away at all hours building products are now disheartening, because they're…

You're fighting a strawman my friend. I explicitly stated that I was not talking about inequitable distribution of capital in a podunk startup. Indeed, in the context of this, the executives that Mayer would be seeking to incentivize with cash are already in the upper stratosphere of ownership - so given that as a background my slant should have been clear.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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post #9

"Ms. Mayer called a meeting with senior executives in August and asked them to sign a written agreement to stay with the company for at least three more years, according to two people familiar with the meeting." Is such an agreement enforceable? Or is this some meaningless pledge? If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive.

Probably not. If you want people to stay, give them a decent financial incentive. I keep seeing this sentiment, but I think it's important to distinguish between "don't give your people worthless equity instead of a good salary" and "I'm just here for the money." Starting to see a lot of the latter around here and it's disheartening. Sure, broken dreams and failed visions and all of that happens, but it's part of the…

There is nothing wrong with being at work just for the money, and it most definitely does not mean you are cynical. Funding a family or a hobby is a rewarding and valuable life to live. Being in it for the money can be a really powerful way to push through a lot of hard and boring work that nobody capable of doing could possibly be passionate about.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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I see a lot of parallels between Marissa Mayer's tenure at Yahoo and Dick Costolo's tenure at Twitter. Dick left two quarters ago and Twitter is still struggling to meet investor expectations. I have a feeling that there are structural problems at Yahoo, like Twitter, that even a unicorn CEO would have difficulty fixing. A lot of analysts and investors seem very leadership oriented in their blame anyway.

Jack was just named CEO on October 5th, it will still be a little bit before we see how the Street reacts. The next quarterly earnings should be telling.

He was part time for the quarter before that tho.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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post #46
post #31

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Daily fantasy has very annoying pop up on Yahoo! Sports. Also, I guess daily fantasy product resulted in killing of NCAAF and NFL picks against Yahoo! Experts and Yahoo! Users. The Picks link goes to message "something went wrong, we are working on it" page now for several weeks. Instead it Should be 404 and Picks link removed.

don't know why this is broken, but I'll file a bug. thank you! One of these days, I'm going to run a bot that crawls all pages on yahoo.com and reports non-200 responses...

Or let users help you identify such pages. Instead of showing a vague message that indicates temporary failure due to time out, show the 404 with option to report the broken link.

I miss picks because that's how I kept track performance of results from my own algos and compare with supposedly experts and crowds.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

#59

Sometimes, well it actually happens quite often, a company just runs its course and is better off just winding things up and closing shop. IMHO it looks like the likely end game for Yahoo is: - taken private by a Private Equity firm - divest Yahoo Japan and Alibaba - any divisions that aren't making an actual profit, (tumblr, flickr, fantasy sports, etc, will be shopped around and sold if possible, or shuttered if no…

Having watched way too much "House of Lies" where consultants often seem to be brought in to back-up the viewpoint of a given executive and make the case for whatever that person's agenda is...what would such consultants likely be doing in this case in "the real world?"

I admittedly haven't had the experience of working with any consultants, so I'm curious for opinions from those who have what happens when they come in during a "typical" engagement of this nature.

Re: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer Faces Morale Challenge

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jack was just named CEO on October 5th, it will still be a little bit before we see how the Street reacts. The next quarterly earnings should be telling.

He was part time for the quarter before that tho.

Yes, but you don't go around making big changes when you're in a temp position. Once he was the real CEO he had free reign to execute a new plan and has shown steps that he's doing that (Moments launched literally the next day!).
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