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How period trackers have changed girl culture

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Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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You think it's a good think that the majority of women were resorting to a drug to cope with a normal healthy body function? I think it's good if more women are able to cope without the drugs.

I think that the pill is supposed to "cope" with potential unwanted pregnancy, not with periods.

> Many said their menstrual problems were greatly reduced, and of course there was a completely reliable schedule that came with it.

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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I said it's a culture shift, I didn't mean to pass any judgement. As someone with a male body I'm not really in the position to tell. I have a strong feeling of what I would do if I had been born female, but I was not, so... Pain, suffering, and health problems in general, are indeed natural as you say. However, most people would consider them part of the " no thanks " aspect of nature. You disagree, and I suspect yo…

> I said it's a culture shift, I didn't mean to pass any judgement. You said it was a 'regression'.

"like a strange regression in some ways" != "it was a regression"

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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It's not unlike the stigma behind a completely natural and necessary process that almost all of people have, which is defecation. Operationally speaking, the two are very similar. So, why is there a stigma behind defecation?

Why is there a stronger stigma behind menstruation, though? In many societies, people who had recently menstruated were seen as "unclean", yet defecation did not have the same stigma.

What societies are those?

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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I agree completely. Personally, I don't recall ever witnessing this stigma, apart from the general disinterest in this topic. Having said that, I don't understand the current movement of glorifying and promoting menstruation (e.g. [1], [2]). Sure, it's natural, but it's also rather yucky - just like shitting and pissing. But I'd still appreciate if I don't see photos of shit, menstruation, or sperm on my Facebook. [1…

I am from Brazil, I had never heard of a taboo in the open, but after I started to have long term girlfriends, all of them tried to not use the word "menses" in Portuguese, from methods that I think are stupid (writing only "m" instead) to the outright infuriating (using ambiguous and hard to understand euphemisms), it annoyed me a lot, and I argued with all of them about it, never worked, they never explained that b…

Isn't that about the same as people saying "I'm going to the toilet for number 2" instead of "I'm going to the toilet to shit"?

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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>It's not unlike the stigma behind a completely natural and necessary (...) which is defecation. Yeah! And as we all know, girls are in general, just /gross/. There is no such stigma around shitting. Have you really never heard people joking what happens after they eat Taco Bell or similar foods? People don't talk about particulars of shit they take - but it's not a complete taboo. But seriously - those two are nothi…

> Have you really never heard people joking what happens after they eat Taco Bell or similar foods?

I've heard men joke about it. I haven't heard women do it. My girlfriend (like most girls I know) will talk about her period to me, but she will never talk about her shit.

> those two are nothing alike and comparing them in such way shows that you haven't given it any real thought.

Would you care to enlighten us?

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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As the app mentioned is free, I would deduce that they try to turn the data about their users cycle into a monetary value. Is there research how certain periods of the cycle would affect women shopping behaviour (or behaviour in general)? I am asking this to understand how much value is in such information. Perhaps there are other aspects I am overlooking?

That makes sense. Why is it that this is creepier to me than the usual data tracking stuff?

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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I don’t know about operational speaking, but epedemiologically speaking, the two are very different. One of them is associated with e. coli, a lethal bacterium that even in modern times and developed nations kills people on a regular basis, e.g. Walkerton, Ontario, where seven people were killed by improperly treated drinking water in 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak It’s easy to see why…

Not very unlike. They are mostly alike. They have differences, which is why we only say they are alike, not equivalent.

They are only “mostly alike” if you carefully cherry-pick the ways in which you count similarity, while handwaving over the number and importance of the ways in which they are different.

Humans care about deciding which things are actually alike and which things are only superficially alike, because such choices have important consequences.

For example, if we decided they are “mostly alike,’ we might decide that all you need is a pad to absorb defecation, and you need only change it when it cannot absorb any more liquid.

After many such discoveries, we change our minds and say, “Although they may appear to be alike at first glance, it turns out that they are mostly different."

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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As the app mentioned is free, I would deduce that they try to turn the data about their users cycle into a monetary value. Is there research how certain periods of the cycle would affect women shopping behaviour (or behaviour in general)? I am asking this to understand how much value is in such information. Perhaps there are other aspects I am overlooking?

I think they just show normal network ads.

Re: How period trackers have changed girl culture

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I never understood the stigma behind a completely natural and necessary process that half of all people have.

I agree completely. Personally, I don't recall ever witnessing this stigma, apart from the general disinterest in this topic. Having said that, I don't understand the current movement of glorifying and promoting menstruation (e.g. [1], [2]). Sure, it's natural, but it's also rather yucky - just like shitting and pissing. But I'd still appreciate if I don't see photos of shit, menstruation, or sperm on my Facebook. [1…

> Personally, I don't recall ever witnessing this stigma

I've seen it in things like my mom asking me whether I'd be uncomfortable getting her pads from the supermarket, which was pretty puzzling to me. I guess it's to women what buying condoms is to men, maybe.

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