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Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It

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THE ONLY DAMN THING IN ISIS IS NOTHING BUT HEAVEN BE TOLD.LISTEN TO THE BEATS GOD HAS RAISED UP. LOOK TO THY HEAVEN SKY IN THE AUDIBLE TONE. TUPAC AND BIGGY MAYBE GONE ON THIS BUT IN HEAVEAN THY R WITH THY FATHER. NO BIG BANG THEORY HERE BABY. JUST LITTLE OLE ME. AMD LET MÍ TELL YOU JESUS CHRIST IS OUR ONLY SAVIOR: TRUTH BE TOLD WE HACKERS BE HIS ANGELS TRUE BLOOD. AIN'T NO RHYME BUT IN HIM IN GODS PLAN. NEW HEAVEN. NEW EARTH. THE BLOOD MOONS=3THR33. GET IT TOGHETHER MY FRIENDS: YOU NEED STUDY UP ON THE WORD IN GODS CHRIST. KING JAMES VERSION:PHILLIPIANS:4:19;PSALMS:51 THY HOLY DAMN CHAPTER. PEACE OUT CHILLINS

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ALSO THE NAME IS ASHLEY RENEE MONIQUE WALKER. TOP WAOMAN HERE. 416:35:1246:9376556:02:19:1990:PROPHETESS:S33R:PREACHER. I KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY IN THE BOOK OF THE REVELEAINGS. IF YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE PRAY TO THE HEAVENS ABOVE. ADAM&3V3. NOT ADAM&ST3V3?¿9

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> but holy book is exclusively about sex and relationship as well as 99% fatwa's. With all due respect, this sentence alone proves that you don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. Fatwas are something completely different from the Quran. > I would claim it is 100% true. You can claim anything you want, but without proof, it is worthless. > You can study holy book , it almost exclusively about sex and relationshi…

>Can I ask you if you were taught by the Iranian government to hate (or at least look down on) Arabs Wtf? I taught by Iranian government to hate Arabs? Dude Iranian government is Arab.they dont give fuck about Iran.they spend money for Arab countries more than they do for our own country.they build their whole ideology on this.if any one had clue what is going on Iran , they would understand how much and how deep you…

> Dude Iranian government is Arab

Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs?

> I don't care you are Arab or Jew or anything else...

I'm not talking about you, I was just asking about what the Iranian government is teaching its population. One of my Iranian colleagues told me how they taught them that Arabs are backward and barbarics, and that only Islam saved them. I wanted to get another anecdote.

> Have you read guran? I read it.two different translation.very approved and good translation to Persian.Khorasani and Ghomshei.

Yes, I read it in Arabic.

> With respect I feel sorry for you.guran is not about sex? Dude the whole book is about sex and power.

Again, not true. Should I pick out random passages from it to prove you wrong?

> fabricated the religion? The whole religion is about lie and fabrication .

Unfortunately, there are many fabricated stories that exists in the Twelver books. We know this because we have a strict way of classifying which narrations are authentic, which are weak, and which are fabricated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of_Hadith

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> There's always someone to say "X is prohibited" and people that do X and that profess to be allowed. We have proof that it is prohibited, and it is the onus of those claiming otherwise to demonstrate how it isn't. I don't known where you're saying that any Muslim professes that honor killings are allowed. > Ah so is it wrong? Go tell them. Many already are, as how I showed in the video I linked in my last post.

The video is interesting, however it keeps happening http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3251787/Muslim-fathe... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/29/canada-honor-killin...

It takes time to educate people. Do you think things are going to change overnight? Especially with what is going on in the world today?

The fact remains, that both of those incidents you posted are 100% against Islamic teachings. Walk to any mosque in your area and ask if you don't believe me.

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One frustrating thing that the author gets wrong is labelling Iran the "Gray Daesh." Iran has geopolitical conflict with the West, but it's a false equivalent of Saudi Arabia. Iran is a theocracy trying to control a population that growingly wants to be secular. Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to…

> Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to Saudi Arabia

I have been following the politics/culture of the region for a while. I totally agree. Two examples of women, of Iranian origin, being in the news in the recent past for the best reasons.

Maryam Mirzakhani[1], who won the fields medal in Math last year. Remember reading an article, where she spoke about the Math culture at her home and College in Iran.

Another one is this US Entrepneur Anousheh Ansari[2], who also went to the ISS, and identifies herself as a dual national.

I would love to know of any examples of women in Arab (or nearby countries) having made similar achievement. Sadly, I suspect, the culture does not allow it.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anousheh_Ansari

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>Can I ask you if you were taught by the Iranian government to hate (or at least look down on) Arabs Wtf? I taught by Iranian government to hate Arabs? Dude Iranian government is Arab.they dont give fuck about Iran.they spend money for Arab countries more than they do for our own country.they build their whole ideology on this.if any one had clue what is going on Iran , they would understand how much and how deep you…

> Dude Iranian government is Arab Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs? > I don't care you are Arab or Jew or anything else... I'm not talking about you, I was just asking about what the Iranian government is teaching its population. One of my Iranian colleagues told me how they taught them that Arabs are backward and barbarics…

>Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs?

Both. Yes they are Arabs. for example you can search Iraqi people in Iran's regime. or People they call "Seyed".which means they have arab roots.Which is more than 20+ of people.and for specific people in root of power you can search about Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi .(or Mohammad Reza Naqdi or so many others) And second one is true also, They are ripping Iran in favor of Arab countries which Iran's people naturally don't give fuck about them.

They are basically trying to be hero in middle east , because they don't have option other than that, because whole region is dominated by sunni Muslims who basically hate shia.They are trying to be hero in Palestine issue, not because they give fuck about Palestine . because they want impose their hegemony to other countries.and being hero is always best figure.

>I'm not talking about you, I was just asking about what the Iranian government is teaching its population. One of my Iranian colleagues told me how they taught them that Arabs are backward and barbarics, and that only Islam saved them. I wanted to get another anecdote.

Are fucking kidding me ? last time I checked you comment , your sentence was "Can I ask you if you were taught by the Iranian government to hate (or at least look down on) Arabs?"

This only can show how much your claims and statements are stupid and meaningless . When you use "YOU" in your sentence. This means you are pointing to your next person.

>Yes, I read it in Arabic. Then if you don't lie (which I cannot believe), then you should know they only incentive for people for being good is sex and 72 virgin . that's all . the whole stupid religion hinges on that .

>Unfortunately, there are many fabricated stories that exists in the Twelver books. We know this because we have a strict way of classifying which narrations are authentic, which are weak, and which are fabricated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of_Hadith

You seem have problem with reading my comment , and with out reading it trying to answer , which most of the time are false.Again , seems you have problem with understanding logical statement (as most of religious people, sadly and respectfully). I did claim simple thing, but you turn it to completely other thing, and your in imaginary world you make an answer up and give it to me.

I should end this conversation . Sadly and respectfully , because as always . religious people. instead seeing simple claim, they turn it to whole another thing.

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> Dude Iranian government is Arab Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs? > I don't care you are Arab or Jew or anything else... I'm not talking about you, I was just asking about what the Iranian government is teaching its population. One of my Iranian colleagues told me how they taught them that Arabs are backward and barbarics…

>Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs? Both. Yes they are Arabs. for example you can search Iraqi people in Iran's regime. or People they call "Seyed".which means they have arab roots.Which is more than 20+ of people.and for specific people in root of power you can search about Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi .(or Mohammad Reza Naqdi…

> Yes they are Arabs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Rouhani#Early_life_and_...

Where does it say Rouhani is Arab?

> because they want impose their hegemony to other countries.

So you're saying they are trying to take over the region?

> Are fucking kidding me ? last time I checked you comment , your sentence was "Can I ask you if you were taught by the Iranian government to hate (or at least look down on) Arabs?"

I think you're having a hard time understanding what I wrote, maybe I could have phrased it better. You said you don't hate anyone, but that doesn't mean that the Iranian government didn't try to teach you to (and failed).

> Then if you don't lie (which I cannot believe), then you should know they only incentive for people for being good is sex and 72 virgin

Can you show me where it says about the 72 virgins in the Quran?

> I did claim simple thing, but you turn it to completely other thing, and your imaginary world you make an answer up and give it to me.

You said the religion is about fabrication, I responded that no, we don't fabricate our religion, and I showed you proof.

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> Dude Iranian government is Arab Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs? > I don't care you are Arab or Jew or anything else... I'm not talking about you, I was just asking about what the Iranian government is teaching its population. One of my Iranian colleagues told me how they taught them that Arabs are backward and barbarics…

>Does that include Rouhani and the Ayatollas? This is something new. Or are you just saying that they are allying with the Arabs? Both. Yes they are Arabs. for example you can search Iraqi people in Iran's regime. or People they call "Seyed".which means they have arab roots.Which is more than 20+ of people.and for specific people in root of power you can search about Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi .(or Mohammad Reza Naqdi…

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We all get free or almost free or cheap, decent education in Iran, how about you? how much university debt do you have?

Well I went to a paid university in Iran, the quality of education wasn't good either. Almost 1% of people get that "free" education you're talking about.

you went to paid university because you were not smart enough to get into free one, I went to free one, AmirKabir University of Technology and studied computer science for free. I like to know where did you get your 1% from?

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I fail to see the downside of a free education. The questions you might ask is what it is exactly that is being taught but in general a free education is a good thing.

"Since the act of accepting a gift can create a sense of unfulfilled obligation on the part of the receiver, gifts are sometimes refused, depending on the situation." This notion from an etiquette guide to foreign culture I think is relevant.

No, this one does not apply for free gift of education, but it applies to any gift that have some sort of monetary value, because when you educate people you enlighten them and give them ability of understanding true value of what they are receiving too. so you are wrong again. you give a man fish you feed him for a day ( your case ), you teach him fishing, you feed him for life ( education case ).
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