What if the conditions that beget such practices are a religion? Then what do we do?
There's not really a religious basis for FGM. The practice predates Islam in the Muslim countries where it's popular, and in certain places is more commonly practiced by Christians than Muslims.
That is only partially true. A casual Google check shows there is a religious basis for FGM.
This is a friendly reminder that the United States have sponsored ISIS when they were still considered freedom fighters against Assad. The United States also happily still do business with ISIS in that they are buying extremely cheap, under market value, oil and capital goods from Iraq exported by ISIS. Of course, none of this is officially documented, just like how not a dollar its whereabouts, of the 40 billion dol…
> This is a friendly reminder that the United States have sponsored ISIS when they were still considered freedom fighters against Assad. Not really. United States sponsored other opponents to Assad, which were then sufficiently marginalized as to be either annihilated or convert to Daesh, but they clearly weren't Daesh at the time.
This is a friendly reminder that the United States have sponsored ISIS when they were still considered freedom fighters against Assad. The United States also happily still do business with ISIS in that they are buying extremely cheap, under market value, oil and capital goods from Iraq exported by ISIS. Of course, none of this is officially documented, just like how not a dollar its whereabouts, of the 40 billion dol…
> This is a friendly reminder that the United States have sponsored ISIS when they were still considered freedom fighters against Assad. Not really. United States sponsored other opponents to Assad, which were then sufficiently marginalized as to be either annihilated or convert to Daesh, but they clearly weren't Daesh at the time.
Just because that at that point in time they didn't have the "brand" or association yet, it doesn't mean they don't belong to the same group of people. Or do you also think that during the Eighty Years' War people already knew they were at the half when forty years passed?
One frustrating thing that the author gets wrong is labelling Iran the "Gray Daesh." Iran has geopolitical conflict with the West, but it's a false equivalent of Saudi Arabia. Iran is a theocracy trying to control a population that growingly wants to be secular. Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to…
I believe the colors for the author denote only the degree of geopolitical conflict
Author got paid to paint Saudi's black ( they are certainly blackish in terms of things that they do [I am not racist] with US approval) and Iran as Gray (not very true, Iran is way more whiter than US, EU and KSA), such a moron. at the end every country is a different shade of Gray.
One frustrating thing that the author gets wrong is labelling Iran the "Gray Daesh." Iran has geopolitical conflict with the West, but it's a false equivalent of Saudi Arabia. Iran is a theocracy trying to control a population that growingly wants to be secular. Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to…
The main difference is that the government in power currently in Iran deposed the government that the US set up and wanted to have as an ally. If the Shah had remained in power in Iran, the US would likely be as close with Iran as they are with Saudi Arabia.
> the government in power currently in Iran deposed the government that the US set up
The U.S. did not 'set up' the Shah; he was the legitimate ruler of Persia. Nor did the U.S. overthrow a 'democratically-elected leader'; the Shah's legitimate government successfully defeated a coup attempt by his prime minister Mossadegh, who died peacefully under house arrest years later.
The major problem I have with this opinion piece is not the perspective, but the writer - Kamel Daoud. One of his major influences is a cross-section of experience between living in Algeria and being bifurcated with the west. His bleed out on the screen, seems more jaded than informative. At the very least he's sloppy in respecting certain parts of the Saudi national, with terms like Wahhabi which by all accounts is derogatory. Which through admission, I'm a white middle class IT professional living in the Rust Best, and the subtle nature of his cantor is a bit tasteless in my opinion. However, Saudi Arabia is by all measures secular and demands it be, because of its place in the world - it's the holder of the great sites of Islam, playing host to the yearly travel of millions of pilgrims of the Islamic faith. Regardless, it's just a bit slap-stick on journalism to be provocative from my perspective.
The guidelines for commenting on Hacker News ask you to avoid bringing up flamebait topics without having anything new or interesting to say about them.
That's not intended as flamebait. I think it's a legitimate question. What if a religion is the root cause of this behavior? What are the appropriate steps to take at that point? I'm not condemning Islam necessarily and certainly not Muslims but I think we need to stop dancing around and confront the issue of what an ideology is teaching. Is it appropriate for our world? If it isn't what do we do about it?
Sorry but "Is the second largest religion appropriate for our world?" is a flamebait question whether you intend it to be or not.
Per the guidelines, it would be totally okay to talk about it if you had something interesting to say about it, but you don't.
I'm sorry but i find that article rather myopic. Most of the claims in that article seem more opinion than good research. For those that are interested in getting a balanced view can get their own research on what life is actually like in Saudi Arabia by talking to a large community of expats there that would rather not return to home soil. That said, Saudi arabia enjoys healthy support from the west and has done so…
"more opinion than good research"? The page says "The Opinion Pages" MSM is full of opinion; I'm just happy when they label it opinion and not "news".
As Iranian (I am commenting from Tehran) I completely approve your point of view.I even explained in long comment in this post(you can find it in bottom).Iranian regime nightmare is liberal people( because they are the most effective opposition to current regime, all of other opposition's dismantled by regime very easily they don't even exist in society). you know why? Because they are only threat to nature of this u…
Well, porn usually doesn't help much. How about proper education and teaching people to respect women and minorities?
Of course , I am using porn as notion, because it is such red line in Iran's(or broadly in Islamic) culture. It is the most - and first - effective attack to the stupid Islamic culture.Of course science is the best alternative. I just want show people the hardware -military,sanction, etc- is not answer . the best answer is software -culture,education,etc-.