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Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Why did MS fork atom.io again? Why didn't they do Facebook-style and just add modules that supported their stuff like how react ecosystem is now supported? Atom was slow but is picking up speed now and would be nice if it was simply aligned.

It's not a fork of atom.io. It's completely independent project which started as web browser based editor. Electron(http://electron.atom.io/) was used to convert that web based editor into a standalone application.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Visual Studio Code has a very modular architecture. The tool itself is written in Node.JS and web technologies, on top of Electron, and most extensions have a Javascript component. But most of the language and debugging functionality is built as out-of-process components, which means that they can be built in any technology. For example, our Typescript and Node tools are built with Node; our .NET tools are built in .…

Interesting. I have been looking for a good editor, I use Sublime now, but I want somethign a bit more modern. > The tool itself is written in Node.JS and web technologies, on top of Electron This is worrying. I think Atom is a really cool editor, and it seems to have come a long way, has a lot of great features and an awesome UI. However, it is buggy and slow as hell. It crashes and behaves unexpectedly, causing it…

Code is definitely not Atom. You should give it a try. It's free.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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I really hate how MS names things. Microsoft SQL Server, or as most people call it SQL Server. I read the title to this post as Visual Studio code is now open-source - but it's not. The product some genius called Visual Studio Code has been opened. I'm really surprised Windows isn't called Microsoft Operating System, or Operating System for short.

I partially blame the title. Why does it capitalize normal words in addition to the product name? Had the title been "Visual Studio Code is now open-source" it would've been more readable IMO. It also helps to be familiar that VSC is a product.

In Spanish (native speaker here) the norm is to capitalize just like in normal phrases. In English the norm is... different. I didn't know what they were talking about either, but didn't believe for a moment that VS was being open sourced :-)

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Visual Studio Code is a bad name. - It draws comparisons to Visual Studio- even though Code isn't really an IDE (nor is it supposed to be) - It's really bad for SEO, searching for "how to do X in Visual Studio Code" pulls hundreds of existing posts on how to do that thing in classic VS. That's going to disrupt developer experience for both VS and Code. - It's confusing for developers wanting to download Code, or VS;…

That's the entire idea behind the name. When you go to the website or start searching around for "Visual Studio Code" you quickly end up with links to Visual Studio (obviously) and Azure. Make no mistake. Microsoft is not developing Visual Studio code out of the goodness of their hearts. This is a marketing strategy to get people to move to Azure.

Developing Code out of the goodness of their hearts? No. Developing Code as part of some convoluted marketing strategy that cannot be measured? Also no.

More likely they're developing Code to compete with Sublime Text and the like. They don't have a product in that market and Microsoft's strategy is what it's always been: gaining marketshare.

Microsoft's success is [now] defined by developers active on MS technology. It underlies the open-sourcing of technologies long held proprietary, as well as the responsiveness to developer feedback.

Long term, I suspect the theory is if MS has a majority stake in the developer market, it can start defining the technology the world runs on (again). Its more of a give-take relationship though, with MS devoting resources to the resources developers actually use.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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I wasn't sure what to expect from VSC, especially going into it I was worried that it would just be a MS-branded, bloated version of an already-slow Atom. My expectations were completely wrong, though. VSC is not bloated or slow. It's well-made. There aren't really any negative MS-flavored conventions as far as I can tell. This isn't MS Office (which I guess has its place but has gone off the deep end, IMHO). It look…

Bloat and jankyness seems to be a function of project age. This is a relatively greenfield project, so it's pretty nice for now. MS Office is ancient as far as software projects go. The only things that are older at this point is UNIX, Oracle bank/govt mainframes.

Ancient?? I think you don't know the history.

MS Office started in 1990.

Current technologies that are older include...

- Unix and most of its tool system (including emacs, vi, grep, awk, tar, X-windows, etc)

- Most fundamental networking technologies (tcp-ip, ftp, email, etc)

- Several game franchises including Mario, Final Fantasy, Frogger, SimCity, Wolfenstein (you'll be more likely to recognize its descendants Doom and Quake)

- Many popular relational databases. Whether you use MS SQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, those are built on code bases that have been continuously developed from before 1990. (Albeit with name changes. MS SQL started with Sybase's code, PostgreSQL was developed from Ingress.)

- Around half of the top 20 programming languages in use today, including languages such as C, C++, Python and Objective-C.

There is a LOT more history to the software you use every day than you recognize!

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Honestly none of those are very good. The UX, speed, stability, etc is lacking. Eclipse is ok if you're only doing Java (and was good 10 years ago, but the UX is irrelevant today), but sucks for everything else. IntelliJ is the only one do better support other languages but it too is quite clunky, and I use it regularly. Sublime is not on the verge of becoming an IDE, nor any of those other ones. There are way too ma…

Jetbrains IDEs are highly regarded and run very well under Linux.

I'm giving my opinion and I think the experience is crap.

* Jank occurs frequently

* hidpi support until theoretically recently was only on the Mac

* it's too often indexing

* vim support is mediocre

* themes are terrible and require difficult ways of installing instead of centralizing and hosting

* too many tiny icons of poor design with no text unless you hover

* overall UX is terrible (why can't it be like someone Apple would design for consumers -- Xcode isn't their finest work but is better than the low bar of IntelliJ)

* font rendering is shit (blame Java)

* their iOS environment is such a shit show that it's not even funny, and only now they're opening Xcode for IB instead of having a decent replacement that can do story boards (does it even have swift 2.1 support?)

* many more issues but this is enough

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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It's funny how on the intro video [1] on the Visual Studio Code homepage [2], the presenter is using apple macbook right in front of the Microsoft logo in the background :) [1] - http://imgur.com/Nc82DB5 [2] - https://code.visualstudio.com/

Apple devs using MS products is a big win for MS.
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