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Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by mozey » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

forgotAgain wrote: post #92

micah_chatt wrote: post #19

I actually visited the VS Code team at Microsoft a few weeks ago for a product-research day where they brought in developers from small teams from around the US. I had heard that this was the plan, and I'm excited to see that it has since happened. They showed some compelling features (still not-yet released) that I think would bring this well-beyond a simple Atom competitor. Once they bring the debugging and linting…

I've been thinking for a while that what Go needs to become more widely used is an IDE with debugger. I'm numb (with a grin on my face) that it's coming from Microsoft. I've read they're beta testing Go on Azure. Another good thing for sure.

How does this compare to https://github.com/go-lang-plugin-org/go-lang-idea-plugin ?

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by avivo » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:00 PM UTC

FYI, it seems that Visual Studio sends a lot of data about your usage back to Microsoft.

"This includes information about how you use the products and services, such as the features you use, the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter." (among other things such as name & device identifiers https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229)

You can disable this...but it requires you to re-disable it on every product update. https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

Is this now standard practice?

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by micah_chatt » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:03 PM UTC

mozey wrote: post #181

forgotAgain wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking for a while that what Go needs to become more widely used is an IDE with debugger. I'm numb (with a grin on my face) that it's coming from Microsoft. I've read they're beta testing Go on Azure. Another good thing for sure.

How does this compare to https://github.com/go-lang-plugin-org/go-lang-idea-plugin ?

I've used that occasionally, but have found myself falling back to vi. I'm interested to try the Go plugin and see how useful it is

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by micah_chatt » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:04 PM UTC

smortaz wrote: post #142

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond: Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode? The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support. Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

This would be awesome! The one other thing I'd love to see is the docker + python support.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by giancarlostoro » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:04 PM UTC

smortaz wrote: post #142

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond: Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode? The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support. Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

This is fantastic news. The main two IDE's I always use are PTVS and PyCharm... This is definitely great to see a full Python environment for VSCode.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by hantusk » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:07 PM UTC

smortaz wrote: post #142

We've been asked this by a few people, so I figured this is a good place to respond: Will PTVS (Python Tools for Visual Studio) come to VSCode? The answer is YES! This will be a major focus next year. Expect full intellisense, debugging, profiling, pkg mgmt, unit test, virtual env, multiple interpreter, Jupyter, etc. support. Disc: Python/R/Jupyter team lead https://www.visualstudio.com/features/python-vs

Sounds great. I hope you will take inspiration from Hydrogen (https://github.com/willwhitney/hydrogen) which has been the greatest benefit to my python coding in recent months.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by mahyarm » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:08 PM UTC

kup0 wrote: post #173

I wasn't sure what to expect from VSC, especially going into it I was worried that it would just be a MS-branded, bloated version of an already-slow Atom. My expectations were completely wrong, though. VSC is not bloated or slow. It's well-made. There aren't really any negative MS-flavored conventions as far as I can tell. This isn't MS Office (which I guess has its place but has gone off the deep end, IMHO). It look…

Bloat and jankyness seems to be a function of project age. This is a relatively greenfield project, so it's pretty nice for now.

MS Office is ancient as far as software projects go. The only things that are older at this point is UNIX, Oracle bank/govt mainframes.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by scscsc » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:10 PM UTC

For those who are, like me, ignorant: VS Code is a source code editor...

I find it funny that nowhere on the official page (code.visualstudio.com) does it say that it's an editor.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by oblio » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:10 PM UTC

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #129

datashovel wrote: post #125

What I find quite odd is Microsoft rarely seems to show up on front page of HN, then all of a sudden in concert all of the top links on front page are Microsoft related. It's not that they're not doing good things to help fix their culture, but I find it almost annoying. It seems almost impossible to me that all this promotion is not coming from them directly..

It’s not uncommon for big tech companies to unload a bunch of news at once. Look how much Apple shows up during WWDC.

And Amazon during re:Invent.

Re: Visual Studio Code is now open source

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Post by giancarlostoro » Wed, Nov 18, 2015, 7:12 PM UTC

avivo wrote: post #182

FYI, it seems that Visual Studio sends a lot of data about your usage back to Microsoft. "This includes information about how you use the products and services, such as the features you use, the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter." (among other things such as name & device identifiers https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229 ) You can disable this...but it requires you to re-disable it on every pr…

This has been on Debian, Netbeans, IntelliJ, and other editors / software / OS since as far back as I can remember. Not sure if it's standard, so long as it's optional I don't mind it.