Of all the wonderful and dangerous developments that technology has granted our species, I'm saddened to think that we have yet to find a pathway to the human spirit that can help reduce hatred and the impulses that result in such terrible actions. From school shootings in the US to warlords in distant lands, there's so much yet to achieve in the name of progress, for human kind. Surely, we have much to do, and as tragedies continue to befall people of all nationalities, creeds, and colors, reaching for betterment hopefully can be a goal for us all. The sun shall rise tomorrow, and I truly hope each new day is one we can use to its fullest for the pursuit of life.
Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
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#333The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
How dare you mention refugees in the same sentence as this tragedy? Shame.
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This is bullshit and you know this. There is very little chance of anyone successfully getting up to terrorism if society is a) riddled with informers b) detaining people without charges is legal c) totalitarian ideology and political supremacy makes the establishment of parallel societies impossible. Border controls make importing terrorists next to impossible. The former eastern Bloc had no terrorist incidents. Pul…
The Eastern Bloc had plenty of terrorism, as well as organized crime -- who do you think was supplying all those black markets? Being a police state is one thing; being an _effective_ police state is something else, much harder (at least in the pre-computer era). In the Soviet case, it didn't help that they didn't really care much about crime...
Plenty of terrorism? USSR funded and commited plenty of terrorism, but I've yet to hear of any terrorist incidents prior to the perestroila..
Soviets did have some organized crime, but they were well, Russians.
GDR, Czechoslovakia, etc, somewhat less inept countries had very little crime and no organized crime to speak of.
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Does that have any value beyond reinforcing people's irrational fear of mass deaths? What if you let your family know you're not one of the 100 killed in this attack then die as one of the 600 murdered in France each year by common crime? I saw this happen with the London bombings. A colleague was almost in tears because her son lived in London and she couldn't contact him on the phone. It turned out he was fine, as…
I found it valuable to know that my friends and family in Paris are safe, so I'm grateful to FB for doing that. OTH It saddens me and make me wonder what kind of world we live in for FB to release such a feature.
You didn't need Facebook to tell you that. You could have just assumed it was true based on the enormous population of Paris (2 million) and the small number of deaths in this incident (100-200).
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Can we at least wait until people start saying these things before we complain? I'm getting tired of seeing a bunch of comments complaining about other people supposedly making arguments of which I see no trace.
I suppose I could have been clearer. People are already making those arguments in the comments of practically every news story on the subject. It is the central dynamic that perpetuates all this violence. Someone from Group A kills dozens or hundreds of Group B, which uses the violence as an excuse to oppress thousands of Group A, which uses the oppression as an excuse to kill more of Group B, and this goes on and on…
A large part of the reason I avoid comments on sites like that, and read HN comments, is precisely to avoid nonsense like this.
You're just perpetuating the nonsense. Yes, you're against it, but your comment is little more than the sentiment you're against, plus a statement of opposition.
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So you think Stalin was as bad as ISIS and Nazis? edit: Why downvotes? I've asked a question, I wonder how western people see Stalin in history. I as Russian see him as the one who was involved in defeating Nazis
As a Russian do you know about the purges he enforced? What is your opinion about the killing of people just for being educated or having having grievances with stalin's governing. Is it OK to kill people for disagreeing with government policies? Like even the post-Stalin soviet government had disowned him.
I am absolutely against that, but I am also against blatant lie and made up figures attributed to people died under Stalin's regime, just look at the comment list here, people saying any kinds of figures from 10 to 100 million deaths, so tomorrow somebody who reads this chat will pick the figure which is more appropriate to his point of view and bring it up in his discussion which will be complete lie and un-official data, which will result in more wrong opinions like that.
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> Islam soils the reputation of islam. No slurs, please. We've already banned one account for turning this thread into a religious flamewar. Comments here need to stay factual.
I did stay factual, I even provided a link. If you're going to restrict speech, restrict all mentions of religion, not just the ones that contradict your preconceived notion.
Indeed. The moderation in this thread has been supremely disappointing. Your post contained no slurs, only an interpretation of data along with a link.
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#339I've seen a lot of HNers suggesting that we must over react and ramp up the war on terrorism. I'm all for cutting off immigration, but how will ramping up the wars do us any good? I don't see how another ten years "fixing" things is going to work.
It won't; a lot of people are radicalising just because of the 'war on terror'. As I said in another comment, what would you do if your family was bombed in a drone strike?
Even if I was a homicidal maniac, I doubt I'd mass-murder French civilians.
That's what confuses me the most about these attacks. Many people have legitimate grievances against NATO forces, but how does that lead to shooting random Parisians? It's so wasteful and counterproductive.
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It's really important to understand the Muslim community in France, and not evoke false connections. We don't know if the attackers had anything to with the flux of Syrian migrants moving across Europe now, but my guess would be: they had nothing to do with it. There are about 5 million Muslims in France, which accounts for about 7 percent of France's total population. France has deep, long-standing and often trouble…
Not that it makes up for it, but France also committed state-sponsored terrorism (by any definition of the word) in New Zealand in the 80's. Though they only killed one person with their bomb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
Could you clarify how this would be "terrorism"? Terrorisms is not something targeted like this. Whethor or not it was a war crime or treason or murder or whatever (they plead guilty to manslaughter)...it's not a repeatable or scalable type of situation and was never a threat to the general public.