I'm not entirely sure how I would define my guiding motivation in life, but I swear "do no harm" would be part of it.
I despair at those who believe otherwise.
Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say
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#42The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
What do people think the refugees were running away from? Exactly these people.
I think a major problem is that even they can't know who among them - in the big groups of refugees making the journey - is an isis member or supporter, and even if they're not, there's no telling who is going to radicalise in the future. The attacks earlier this year in paris weren't done by someone that came from that area, iirc.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective. How can a country possibly prevent these things while still maintaining a free society?
By making the secret services work for their money on real problems, instead of fretting about tapping media pirates and suchlike. By having a foreign policy that does not rely on military intervention at the drop of a hat. By not starting fires all over the place. The list is long and well-known.
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#44According to iTele there are now 118 dead. Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria). The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack…
> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective.
As an aside, strong suveillance laws were voted earlier this year.
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#45I'm not entirely sure how I would define my guiding motivation in life, but I swear "do no harm" would be part of it. I despair at those who believe otherwise.
I'm not sure if I could keep a motivation like that if, for example, my family was killed by a drone strike.
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#46"Evil thrives when good men do nothing" gotta put a stop to this
What should be done?
Bomb the hell out of the Syrians? Surely they have suffered enough.
Iraq III? Maybe this time.... maybe....
Send the ground troops into Saudi? Quatar?
Acknowledging that some of ISIS / Al-Qaeda gripes do have some merit, stop interfering in other countries affairs, stop propping up dictators because they are "our" dictator.
Something else?
Unfortunately for the Syrians, my money is on bomb the hell out of them, trying to limit the number of "collataral damage" of dead women and kids, but hey, not our fault.
And so we go round the merry go round again.
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#49The repeated attacks, heavy immigration of refugees...I'm hoping for the best, but I feel like there is a powder keg here. Whether or not it is based in any fact, how this is handled and plays out is a serious concern.
I believe that France didn't open its borders to this wave of refugees/migrants but I could be mistaken since I don't follow the news this closely.
France cannot really control the wave of migrants anyway. But it is unlikely that the terrorists are one of these migrants. My guess is that they were French nationals/residents.
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#50I'm not entirely sure how I would define my guiding motivation in life, but I swear "do no harm" would be part of it. I despair at those who believe otherwise.
What about those who do harm in your name?