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Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by tnecniv »

drumdance wrote: post #20
sk5t wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue that the ICC is something that seriously diminishes the Constitution, as the courts have applied such tortured logic so as to allow the federal government to regulate virtually anything.

I personally think the Constitution should be thrown out and start over. It's an archaic document reflecting a radically different society. Some love to treat it as sacred, but if it's so sacred how come we've had to amend it so much? Though come to think of it I wouldn't mind a few amendments to the Bible and Koran.

I always wondered why amendments weren't MORE common.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by ahallock »

esaym wrote: post #2

>"In a 4-1 ruling, the court found that prohibitions on using marijuana violated the 'right to the free development of personality'" Perhaps that is out of context, and I don't know their constitution as a whole, but I am not finding a lot of sense in that sentence. If drug use can be considered a "right to the free development of personality", then how else could America's "right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of…

Why don't we stop enumerating specific rights (which leads to picking winners and losers and inconsistent application) and refactor them into a few basic principles. Such as the basic property right of self ownership. Since you own your body, not the State, you may use marijuana. Simple.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by jpatokal »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #23

Not to sound cynical, but (even if marijuana was legal to grow and consume) what's to stop a cartel from simply threatening the lives of anyone else who grows it?

The same that stops the mafia from threatening anybody who brews beer or distills liquor: the target can now call the cops.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by largote »

jpatokal wrote: post #24
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #23

Not to sound cynical, but (even if marijuana was legal to grow and consume) what's to stop a cartel from simply threatening the lives of anyone else who grows it?

The same that stops the mafia from threatening anybody who brews beer or distills liquor: the target can now call the cops.

Most people would switch to legal providers therefore drying up one of the money pipelines for cartels. Most of their power comes from their relatively large economic influence.

Large corporate interests could leverage legit logistical infrastructure and take over, plus large corporations are rich and connected enough to get the police to actually enforce the law for them against threats.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by alex_anglin »

arebop wrote: post #25
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #23

Not to sound cynical, but (even if marijuana was legal to grow and consume) what's to stop a cartel from simply threatening the lives of anyone else who grows it?

What's to stop a cartel from doing the same for corn growers?

Limes last year[1], corn next year?

[1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mexican-drug-cartel-behind-incr...

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by steve19 »

jpatokal wrote: post #24
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #23

Not to sound cynical, but (even if marijuana was legal to grow and consume) what's to stop a cartel from simply threatening the lives of anyone else who grows it?

The same that stops the mafia from threatening anybody who brews beer or distills liquor: the target can now call the cops.

The cops who work for the cartel [1]?

[1] http://time.com/3490853/mexico-massacre-students-police-cart...

Edit: Downvoters, I would love to hear why I am wrong. I only know what I read about Mexican law enforcement, no personal experience dealing with them.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by steve19 »

arebop wrote: post #25
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #23

Not to sound cynical, but (even if marijuana was legal to grow and consume) what's to stop a cartel from simply threatening the lives of anyone else who grows it?

What's to stop a cartel from doing the same for corn growers?

What is to stop Facebook buying corn farms in the USA? Nothing except it's not what they know and not as profitable.

Re: Mexico supreme court rules ban on marijuana use unconstitutional

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Post by eli »

tnecniv wrote: post #21
drumdance wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think the Constitution should be thrown out and start over. It's an archaic document reflecting a radically different society. Some love to treat it as sacred, but if it's so sacred how come we've had to amend it so much? Though come to think of it I wouldn't mind a few amendments to the Bible and Koran.

I always wondered why amendments weren't MORE common.

Consider how poorly the legislature works and then look at the process for amending the Constitution. I'm amazed there were so many!
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