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Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by Spooky23 »

thebouv wrote: post #8

I'm not fooling myself into seeing this as anything but a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" setup. RedHat is getting a ton out of this, and so is Microsoft. Who's the main target for Azure? Enterprise companies who trust Microsoft implicitly. When an exec comes to the head of IT and says "we need to be on the cloud! I read about it!", Azure eases the transition by being able to go to vendor you've already bee…

It's not a trust thing. Microsoft is wheeling and dealing with Azure. So you won't get a deal on O365 or Dynamics anymore, but you can buy Azure credits at a discount.

They are using Azure as a loss leader to get you hooked, then the price goes up. This new SaaS world is kind of like buying cars.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by scholia »

bechampion wrote: post #16

who uses redhat ? (im not being sarcastic)

Red Hat is by far the most successful open source company and will be the first to reach $2bn in annual revenues (it's on $1.9bn ttm). It's also very profitable -- it made $180m in its last financial year -- though presumably some of that comes from JBoss.

It seems to be by far the most popular version used by governments and large corporations.

"We're an enterprise software company. You're either consumer or enterprise. We're enterprise."

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by sharms »

bechampion wrote: post #16

who uses redhat ? (im not being sarcastic)

Regulatory compliance in various fields stipulates that you have defined responsibilities and support accountability. The net value here is that a vendor like Red Hat is already deployed at companies who comply to the same regulations, so we can all share and leverage best practice documents to satisfy those controls. Even if you had a team of 10 smart Linux engineers, you save time and money by leveraging Red Hat.

In addition, you may also need patent indemnification and reliable security updates (we leaned on Red Hat heavily during ShellShock and others). For example, before I release a Linux image I have a checklist of 450+ items, including things like NIST certification. Red Hat streamlines this process as it has already been certified across the most strenuous of regulatory and compliance environments, and we can reuse much of that work.

This isn't important for a clothing website startup for example, but for aircraft, CT scanners, anything ISO compliant, finance it is paramount to what is being delivered.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by baldfat »

thebouv wrote: post #8

I'm not fooling myself into seeing this as anything but a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" setup. RedHat is getting a ton out of this, and so is Microsoft. Who's the main target for Azure? Enterprise companies who trust Microsoft implicitly. When an exec comes to the head of IT and says "we need to be on the cloud! I read about it!", Azure eases the transition by being able to go to vendor you've already bee…

Azure has been mostly Linux Applications for a while now. Whenever Enterprise wants a contract they almost exclusively think Red Hat. So this makes sense for both of them to team up.I also don't see any fallout in the community because of this.

Since Ubuntu ruling the cloud instances this also makes sense for Red Hat.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by scholia »

toyg wrote: post #37
scholia wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was simply pointing out the fact that Linux has been on Azure for years, because apparently some people don't know that. Indeed, according to Microsoft: "More than 20 percent of Azure virtual machines run on Linux." http://news.microsoft.com/cloud/index.html You're welcome to spin anything you like.

Yeah, but "Red Hat being late" is not a fact, it's placing the burden on Red Hat for getting their stuff running on Microsoft's systems for Microsoft's benefit . "Microsoft was late getting Red Hat on board" is the exact same fact with the opposite spin. No spin would have been "both companies ironed out an agreement allowing their products to be commercially supported when working together, three years after Azure l…

Red Hat could have been one of the first Linuxes on Azure, if it had wanted. But back in 2013, it said: "Red Hat CEO: We don't need Microsoft to succeed" http://www.infoworld.com/article/2614357/linux/red-hat-ceo--...

I don't see why you're quibbling about "late". It's a fact that it's more than three years later than a bunch of other versions. But hey, you can have your own spin.

Re: Microsoft and Red Hat partner

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Post by jnericks »

adrianlmm wrote: post #30
technofiend wrote: post #28

I think this is just ticking a box for Microsoft since I believe you can get RH on AWS. But let's be honest - how many people will perceive any value in stacking a Microsoft technology (.NET) on top of UNIX? Sure if you already have a .NET app, hosting it in UNIX may give you some benefit. But is anyone really going to write an app from scratch with this in mind? I'm skeptical.

I would, .NET and the latest C# is awesome and superior to other frameworks, so yes, the fact that can run in Linux is something very atractive.

This, I've recently been writing more Java lately and I miss C# quite a bit
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