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Caffeine? Sugar? Lol! How about mice poison? Reading wikipedia and actually knowing stuff about drugs are very different things. Please stop posting, you don't have a clue.
You focused on the least important part of what I wrote then resort to ad hominem attacks. There is no sensible conversation to be had here.
Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
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Re: Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
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Couldn't agree more but I don't think it has to do with capitalism, but economics. Regardless of the system in place, if there is a high enough demand for a product, as there is drugs, there will be a supply. An interesting example is how drug use is actually rampant in US prisons, some of the most controlled environments in the country. No ones idea of a free market capitalism, but somehow drugs are still very acces…
the one I know for sure about involved visitation. wives and girlfriends are asked to smuggle something in for a significant other inside of themselves. a toilet trip later it gets removed and passed off, and voila. even a small amount can curry quite a bit of favor and of course cash. because of the risk involved, the price is well marked up. seems like the guards would have to be on the take, though, because I'm no…
some interesting stuff that came up while looking trough research material:
http://www.garysturt.free-online.co.uk/zimbardo.htm simulated prison experiment going downhilll
this one is about cigarettes and seem to support the point: http://tpj.sagepub.com/content/81/2/142.short
"This study describes how bans can transform largely benign cigarette “gray markets,” where cigarettes are used as a currency, into more problematic black markets, where cigarettes are a highly priced commodity."
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Meth and Heroin addicts tend to be poorer and prone to criminal activity, than pharmaceutical amphetamine and opiate users. Additionally, adverse reactions, are more likely when the drug is unregulated.
Do you know how much 1g of heroin cost?
Re: Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
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well selling is illegal, so its not legal per se.
If they're being specific on 'profiting' then in theory dealers could 'donate' their stashes to addicts and write it off against the tax man :D
Re: Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
#125It is a step in the right direction, but it still half-baked. Without decriminalizing production as well, they are maintaining a monopoly for those that works outside of the law. Which means a very profitable tax free market that has to recreate all of the state features like physical safety and insurance policies from scratch. Every nation that forbids something that is in demand, is gestating its own competition. T…
Socialist revolutions happen overnight but capitalist changes need to happen over time. In case of India it took 50 years for the government to realize that it is nonsensical to restrict how many nut bolts a factory could produce.
Re: Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
#126It is a step in the right direction, but it still half-baked. Without decriminalizing production as well, they are maintaining a monopoly for those that works outside of the law. Which means a very profitable tax free market that has to recreate all of the state features like physical safety and insurance policies from scratch. Every nation that forbids something that is in demand, is gestating its own competition. T…
> Which means a very profitable tax free market That's totally untrue. Drug lords still have to contend with law enforcement raids and busts or bribing govt officials for their goods and products to "reach the consumer" constituting in effect a tax on their operations.
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Anecdotes are not a valid citation. Heroin is the most harmful drug, statistically, according to numerous studies.
Do you have links to those studies? A lot of the harm from heroin come from adulterants which are injected, causing abscess; or from the illegality of providing clean needles and injection advice and safe spaces to inject which causes infection etc; or from the illegality of providing maintenance doses from doctors which cause people to burgle or sex work to get money to buy the drug. Heroin is undoubtedly an unwise…
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67...
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/4/e000774.full.html#T1
There are more, but freely accessing journals online is troublesome. I have NEVER seen any study say heroin is anything but one of the most crippling and dangerous addictions. I am still waiting for anyone to cite one...
Re: Ireland to 'decriminalise' small amounts of drugs for personal use
#128It is a step in the right direction, but it still half-baked. Without decriminalizing production as well, they are maintaining a monopoly for those that works outside of the law. Which means a very profitable tax free market that has to recreate all of the state features like physical safety and insurance policies from scratch. Every nation that forbids something that is in demand, is gestating its own competition. T…
Socialist revolutions happen overnight but capitalist changes need to happen over time. In case of India it took 50 years for the government to realize that it is nonsensical to restrict how many nut bolts a factory could produce.
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I'd really love if this were the case, but sadly it really isn't. The affect of US tech companies coming here has largely been a small-scale version of Palo Alto-esque gentrification of a small area of Dublin (docklands) and any improvements in standard of living being limited to a small white male tech elite. Overall poverty is up (we're dealing with a very serious recent homelessness crisis) and average standards o…
Thanks for the inside perspective - hard to get a real sense of how a country is doing from GDP/economic indicators. Wishful thinking on my part that tech wealth would trickle down more effectively in Ireland than in the US. On the homelessness crisis: Amazing that housing prices in Dublin have jumped up 22.3% YoY. [1] What else do you see contributing to the rise in poverty/homelessness and the decline in living sta…
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> I can see the UK leaning on them > Hopefully Ireland will give their former (hell, > ongoing) occupiers the finger I think you vastly over-estimate the importance of Ireland to the British government.
I take it you missed the bit where they fought a few dozen wars over the last century?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-inva...