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The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by iMark »

Alupis wrote: post #30
WildUtah wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Steve Jobs was quite happy to allow dreadful products like OSX 1.0 or the original Retina MacBook to go to market" Original Retina MacBook Pro June 11, 2012 Steve Jobs 1955-2011 I believe you may have made a mistake in judging who made the final decisions on quality control procedures for the initial release of the rMBP.

Well, in fairness, it's likely this product was already in the funnel back in 2011. However, Jobs wouldn't have been able to do a final review, but then again, do CEO's regularly review all of a company's products, or do they trust their team (product managers, quality testers and managers, etc...?

As important as Apple was to Steve Jobs, he may have had one or two more important matters on his mind in 2011.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by CamperBob2 »

Jtsummers wrote: post #34
CamperBob2 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What drives me nuts about my 6s is the way they moved the power button from the top of the phone to the opposite (long) side as the volume buttons. This guarantees that I cannot pull the phone out of my pocket without hitting one button or another inadvertently, and also makes it likely that the button I press first will be a volume button rather than the power button I wanted. I'd like to grab the iPhone's product d…

So, this does kind of get at what gareim wrote, but how do you keep it in your pocket? By habit I've always put it in with the home button at the top. 90% of the time I want to unlock the phone when I pull it out, otherwise I'm taking it out to charge it or be more comfortable. So if I want it unlocked with the home button up, it's unlocked by the fingerprint scanner by the time I have it out of the pocket.

If I have to pay attention to the orientation when I put it into my pocket, that doesn't exactly address the problem.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by _ph_ »

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

I noticed the orientation problems too, but they are completely gone with 9.1, so I guess they fixed them.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by jbandela1 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

You are basing your comparison of desktop computers as you are now. Smartphones are more like desktop computers in the 90's. The rate of change was so great, that even a 3 year old computer felt sluggish on a new operating system and often needed settings turned down. (Think 486 vs Pentium).

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by kenjackson »

How big of a difference is the camera on the 6s without OIS versus the 6s plus with OIS? I can't really notice a difference in the low light pictures on the site.

I take a lot of pictures, but I'm not someone who dives into the details (jpg is fine for me... never even considered RAW). I prefer the 6s form factor, but don't want to end up with a bunch of blurry pictures that would be clear if I would have gotten a 6s Plus.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by soylentcola »

calvin_c wrote: post #36
jackson1372 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhone 6S will be able to run iOS 15 without any lags? I'm not sure the comparison to PCs is fair. Smartphones are still pretty young, and both the OS and chipsets make large leaps every year. If the…

A good precedent has already been set for this. The first iPhone got two major updates, iOS 4.0 being the first version that didn't support it. The 3GS added an extra year to the lifespan, launching with iOS 3.0 and only being left out of support for iOS 7. The 4S added even another year, recently having received the fourth major update of it's lifespan. So yeah, while there is certainly some performance lost on a 4S…

This is the dilemma I've run across over the past couple of years. Android devices have a much worse track record regarding official OS updates compared to iOS devices. But then on the flipside, when my iOS devices get older, I can't downgrade or install something more "lightweight" like I can with my Android stuff.

Maybe I'm just used to being able to repurpose old laptops and desktops with slimmed down Linux when they run current versions of Windows or OSX too slowly. All I know is that my original Nexus 7 (2012) is not getting the newest Android update while my iPad 2 (2011) is getting the latest iOS...

...but I want nothing more than to be able to put a third party ROM image on that old iPad or even downgrade it to an older iOS because while the Nexus 7 still works fine, the iPad running the latest iOS is practically unusable. Even reading books on it causes hangs and stutters. Task switching is miserable and trying to run more than one or two tabs in the browser is just masochistic.

I don't even care about jailbreaking or rooting or warranties or any of that. These things are both out of warranty and I own both so I accept the risks. But to this day, I still can't find any way to get something less demanding up and running on that iPad 2. I don't mind not having new features that require new hardware. I'd be happy with good performance and a simple set of apps (browser, email, calendar, e-reader, etc) as long as it didn't stutter and lag through it all.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by humbleMouse »

gamegoblin wrote: post #40
humbleMouse wrote: post #27

I don't like the iphone 6 line. They are too big. I bike and run with my phone all the time and don't like having a clunker strapped to my arm. I got rid of the 6 and got a 5c and I like it way more. Just as fast as an iphone6 and 1/3 the price. By just as fast, I mean for normal use - not playing games and using crazy apps (which I don't do)

I recently downgraded from a 6 to a 5S almost entirely over size issues. If my thumb cannot reach the url bar of the browser and all of the keyboard without repositioning my hand, the phone is too big. I know on the 6 you can double tap the home key to bring the screen down, but that is a bandaid. I also found the double tap unresponsive sometimes, often having to try two or three times, in which time I could have ju…

Completely agreed. Literally felt strain in my hand and fingers from holding the beast all day. Shifting the phone around made me almost drop it a bunch of times too. It finally did hit the fritz when it slid out of my pocket(because it is very slippery) and got crushed in my car door when I sat in my car.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by andrepd »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #16
nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

What drives me nuts about my 6s is the way they moved the power button from the top of the phone to the opposite (long) side as the volume buttons. This guarantees that I cannot pull the phone out of my pocket without hitting one button or another inadvertently, and also makes it likely that the button I press first will be a volume button rather than the power button I wanted. I'd like to grab the iPhone's product d…

A power button on the side may drive you nuts. Me, and plenty of other people, I'm sure, prefer a button on the side. Especially in larger phones, pressing the button on top is impractical, while pressing a button on the side is more natural from the default holding position.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by rch »

humbleMouse wrote: post #27

I don't like the iphone 6 line. They are too big. I bike and run with my phone all the time and don't like having a clunker strapped to my arm. I got rid of the 6 and got a 5c and I like it way more. Just as fast as an iphone6 and 1/3 the price. By just as fast, I mean for normal use - not playing games and using crazy apps (which I don't do)

Exactly - I was surprised the review didn't mention the size.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by davnicwil »

andy_ppp wrote: post #17
vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

Built in obsolescence?

Almost certainly. I try really hard to be as un-cynical as possible about this, but there's a great quote I heard from someone smart whose name I can't recall right now - economics is incentives all the way down - and it applies perfectly here I think.

What possible incentive could any phone manufacturer have to build a phone that significantly over-lasts the rough 2 year cycle that their bulk buyers, i.e the networks, sell the phones on?

That's not rhetorical, I'm really asking - does anyone know of any?

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