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Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by nicholas73 » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 7:54 PM UTC

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present.

Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the home screen only (seriously who needs that?). It's not even in the settings menu to disable rotation entirely - you have to find it in the pull up menu.

Another gripe I have is that all the pull up and down menus also trigger when you don't want it. The screen has gotten really sensitive, which is great, but there are lots of unintended effects now.

A fanatical user running the company wouldn't have overlooked this.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by SN76477 » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 7:58 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

A touch of elegance is missing, I agree.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by threeseed » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:01 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

> feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection

Apple never had perfection. It's nothing more than revisionist history. Every one of their products has had issues.

> A fanatical user running the company wouldn't have overlooked this.

Steve Jobs was quite happy to allow dreadful products like OSX 1.0 or the original Retina MacBook to go to market despite a litany of issues. The fact is that the CEO can't be worried about stupid, small details like this. If you actually thought deep about all that goes on at Apple and the increasing need for CEOs to be involved in lobbying you would soon realise how silly your point is.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by jharger » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:04 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

It's not a great solution, but last time I tried it "zoomed" display mode made it behave more like the old mode... less like an iPad. The home screen doesn't rotate, etc.

The down side, of course, is that you lose some screen real-estate in your apps. They do need an option just for the home screen.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by vbezhenar » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:04 PM UTC

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device.

If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhone 6S will be able to run iOS 15 without any lags?

On an unrelated note, I really don't understand, why iOS 9 (actually iOS 7+) is so slow on iPhone 4S. I was able to run powerful 3D games on that phone. Like a lot of shaders, triangles, special effects, and so on. This phone actually has good enough GPU. Why simple sliding animation could lag? Why opening "Settings" app takes few seconds? That's crazy. Probably there are good technical reasons for that, but I just don't understand, what they could be. Sometimes I think that there is intentional performance bottlenecks for old phones, so people would want to buy a new ones. I has the chance to compare iOS 6 and iOS 8/9 on the same phone, and difference is huge.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by CamperBob2 » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:12 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

What drives me nuts about my 6s is the way they moved the power button from the top of the phone to the opposite (long) side as the volume buttons. This guarantees that I cannot pull the phone out of my pocket without hitting one button or another inadvertently, and also makes it likely that the button I press first will be a volume button rather than the power button I wanted.

I'd like to grab the iPhone's product designer by his or her (designer) lapel and make one thing very clear: I should not have to look at my phone in order to turn it on, or to orient it for use.

This stuff should be obvious basic ergonomics, but ever since they released the infamous iPhone 4 with its perfectly symmetrical surfaces, they've always felt compelled to do at least one minor but annoying thing wrong. My previous iPhone 5 was a nice exception, but like its predecessors, it was just too small.

Gotta love all these First World problems, I suppose.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by andy_ppp » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:12 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

Built in obsolescence?

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by devit » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:14 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

That's going to depend on whether Apple can be trusted to support their hardware indefinitely or whether they will decide to drop support to force people to give them more money.

A much safer bet would be a popular Android device, where anyone can port the latest Android version to the device and there is no monetary interest in not doing so, and thus it's likely that updates will be available forever.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by lgieron » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:15 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

My solution to that is to not upgrade iOS. I too feel pushed with these slow "updates" to just buy a new phone and I refuse to be milked.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by WildUtah » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:18 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

"A fanatical user running the company wouldn't have overlooked this."

I love this subtle invocation of the principle of 'this never would have happened if Steve Jobs were still alive.'