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Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by pilsetnieks » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 8:56 PM UTC

WildUtah wrote: post #22

threeseed wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection Apple never had perfection. It's nothing more than revisionist history. Every one of their products has had issues. > A fanatical user running the company wouldn't have overlooked this. Steve Jobs was quite happy to allow dreadful products like OSX 1.0 or the original Retina MacBook to go to market despite a litany of issues. The fact is that the CEO can't be worrie…

"Steve Jobs was quite happy to allow dreadful products like OSX 1.0 or the original Retina MacBook to go to market" Original Retina MacBook Pro June 11, 2012 Steve Jobs 1955-2011 I believe you may have made a mistake in judging who made the final decisions on quality control procedures for the initial release of the rMBP.

I think he meant the original MacBook Air

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by Theodores » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

Is it just closed source software that does this? With a lot of the big open source projects one can expect incremental speed improvements with every release (although this is far from guaranteed). My LAMP stack is quicker than it was a few years ago, not slower. With my own coding efforts I consider bloat and speed to be really important. Slower is not better unless there are some major features that have been added and not refactored yet. At Apple do they just go anti-pattern? Define the array inside the for loop rather than just do it before entering the loop?

Maybe when iOS 15 comes along someone will put iOS 9 on it somehow and it will blaze along. I doubt it, but I would not be at all surprised if the delays in opening apps are the same in iOS 15 and the hardware that goes with it. There should be a 'Moore's Constant' for this, to describe how all advances in silicon are instantly negated by operating systems at boot time to have a consistent amount of delay when opening apps.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by bad_user » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

I'm mostly an Android user and now I have an iPhone 6s, received as a gift - this is actually the third iPhone I'm receiving as a gift, the first one was a 3GS. I like the hardware, the phone, its size. I like how polished it feels. I really like the photos it takes. But I consider Android's software to be superior. Others might disagree, but I have many reasons for why I prefer Android and I think iOS is falling further and further behind.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by Jtsummers » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #16

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

What drives me nuts about my 6s is the way they moved the power button from the top of the phone to the opposite (long) side as the volume buttons. This guarantees that I cannot pull the phone out of my pocket without hitting one button or another inadvertently, and also makes it likely that the button I press first will be a volume button rather than the power button I wanted. I'd like to grab the iPhone's product d…

So, this does kind of get at what gareim wrote, but how do you keep it in your pocket? By habit I've always put it in with the home button at the top. 90% of the time I want to unlock the phone when I pull it out, otherwise I'm taking it out to charge it or be more comfortable. So if I want it unlocked with the home button up, it's unlocked by the fingerprint scanner by the time I have it out of the pocket.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by wvenable » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:17 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #33

I'm mostly an Android user and now I have an iPhone 6s, received as a gift - this is actually the third iPhone I'm receiving as a gift, the first one was a 3GS. I like the hardware, the phone, its size. I like how polished it feels. I really like the photos it takes. But I consider Android's software to be superior. Others might disagree, but I have many reasons for why I prefer Android and I think iOS is falling fur…

I use an iPhone and I (continue) to have an Android tablet -- I've been operating this way over a few generations. I don't think either platform is 100% superior over the other. For every advantage Android has over iOS there is different advantage iOS has over it.

I was seriously considering going for an Android phone this time around but the 6s is really some amazing hardware. It isn't even as hyped up as it should be.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by calvin_c » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:18 PM UTC

jackson1372 wrote: post #26

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

> If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhone 6S will be able to run iOS 15 without any lags? I'm not sure the comparison to PCs is fair. Smartphones are still pretty young, and both the OS and chipsets make large leaps every year. If the…

A good precedent has already been set for this. The first iPhone got two major updates, iOS 4.0 being the first version that didn't support it. The 3GS added an extra year to the lifespan, launching with iOS 3.0 and only being left out of support for iOS 7. The 4S added even another year, recently having received the fourth major update of it's lifespan.

So yeah, while there is certainly some performance lost on a 4S running iOS 9, it's not nearly as bad as the original iPad running iOS 5, or the original iPhone running iOS 3. I imagine the 6S will easily be able to handle iOS XV.

Also noteworthy is that the only iPad not still receiving updates is the original model, meaning the iPad 2 has received the most major updates of any iOS device at five.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by willtim » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:23 PM UTC

tw04 wrote: post #9

acchow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the Galaxy S6. Camera is wonderful. Battery life is crap. Going iPhone next.

I agree, the battery life is shockingly poor. I blame touchwiz as much as anything else. I would take a slightly thicker phone for a battery that consistently lasts all day.

Samsung TouchWiz with KitKat 4.4.4 had awesome performance and battery life on my Note4, then they destroyed it with a Lollipop update (after constant update nags) and forced me to downgrade probably voiding my warranty in the process, anyone sane would have returned the phone. I don't know if Samsung or Google is to blame for the serious battery and performance regressions, but I do blame Samsung for pushing it out to its users. Many people have been burned by this and will never buy Samsung again. What were they thinking? It's not as if Lollipop offers anything much for the average user (developers are another matter). It's such a shame, as the hardware is top notch.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by Jtsummers » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:26 PM UTC

nicholas73 wrote: post #11

The iPhone 6s Plus I have is a wonderful phone, but I can't help but feel that Apple is losing some of it's perfection. There are some obvious UI annoyances that are present. Such as, the Plus is a large phone so you most often open it with the phone tilted somehow, giving you landscape mode. It does not easily revert to the upright state without juggling it around, nor is there an option to not go landscape on the h…

I've never used a 6 Plus or 6S Plus. Does the rotation lock not work on it like it does on the iPad? That seems like a strange oversight, it's not like it should be running through substantially different code paths.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by aikah » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:26 PM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #17

vbezhenar wrote: post #15

I wonder, how many years iPhone 6S will be able to stay relevant. For example iPhone 4S started lagging on iOS 7. While it's certainly usable on iOS 9, it feels as an old and underpowered device. If you have powerful computer from 2010, it'll happily run Windows 10 and almost any application, including almost any game in medium (or even high) mode. I wonder, whether this race on mobile platform will continue or iPhon…

Built in obsolescence?

You mean planned obsolescence and Yes, that is exactly that.

Re: The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

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Post by gamegoblin » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 9:26 PM UTC

humbleMouse wrote: post #27

I don't like the iphone 6 line. They are too big. I bike and run with my phone all the time and don't like having a clunker strapped to my arm. I got rid of the 6 and got a 5c and I like it way more. Just as fast as an iphone6 and 1/3 the price. By just as fast, I mean for normal use - not playing games and using crazy apps (which I don't do)

I recently downgraded from a 6 to a 5S almost entirely over size issues. If my thumb cannot reach the url bar of the browser and all of the keyboard without repositioning my hand, the phone is too big.

I know on the 6 you can double tap the home key to bring the screen down, but that is a bandaid. I also found the double tap unresponsive sometimes, often having to try two or three times, in which time I could have just repositioned my hand.

To me, the 5 is near the optimal smartphone size.