Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What word would you use instead? Infringing. (duh)
I can't tell if you're joking, but "infringe" means "to violate" which implies that there is a law or agreement that's being broken. That makes it sound like you agree with the idea that this is stealing.
Google doesn't recognise or penalise stolen content
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What word would you use instead? Infringing. (duh)
I can't tell if you're joking, but "infringe" means "to violate" which implies that there is a law or agreement that's being broken. That makes it sound like you agree with the idea that this is stealing.
Different circumstances, different terminology. The correct terminology (see US Title 17 or CDPA 1988) is "infringing". Anyone who insists on using the word "stolen" is signalling their ignorance of the first, most basic fact of copyright law.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plagiarism can also apply to copying content without using the exact same wording. In my mind, "stolen" means copying verbatim. Plagiarism comes from a word meaning "kidnapping" though, so the tone of both words is pretty similar.
Stolen implies that the original owner no longer has access to the data due to the actions of the perpetrator.
e.g. The Soviet spies stole the plans for the hydrogen bomb.
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#24Also, the combination of the pagerank algorithm and normal user behavior typically helps Google to understand who was first and who deserves to rank higher. That is, most people don't plagiarize content, they quote it and then cite the source, which (thanks to pagerank) tends to rank the original better than sites which have plagiarized it.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plagiarism can also apply to copying content without using the exact same wording. In my mind, "stolen" means copying verbatim. Plagiarism comes from a word meaning "kidnapping" though, so the tone of both words is pretty similar.
Stolen implies that the original owner no longer has access to the data due to the actions of the perpetrator.
See definition 1d.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stolen implies that the original owner no longer has access to the data due to the actions of the perpetrator.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steal See definition 1d.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plagiarism can also apply to copying content without using the exact same wording. In my mind, "stolen" means copying verbatim. Plagiarism comes from a word meaning "kidnapping" though, so the tone of both words is pretty similar.
Stolen implies that the original owner no longer has access to the data due to the actions of the perpetrator.
Re: Google doesn't recognise or penalise stolen content
#29And they shouldn't. Thats not their job.
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#30I think this is pretty fair on Google's part. How could you possibly figure out who owned content? What if I published a book, it was copy-pasted in blogs, and then later I put it somewhere crawlable by Google? You certainly can't just say "first time we saw it, that's the proper owner". It would either require a massive amount of manual QA to get right (and even then, there are going to be interminable copyright bat…
The behavior does seem weird in any case, like there is a certain slot for a given piece of content, and Google is swapping different domains in and out to fill that slot. It seems like Google is actually trying to identify the original content, failing, and then actually inadvertently penalizing the original producer.