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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by DanBC »

madaxe_again wrote: post #355
minimaxir wrote: post #262

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From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO): slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it. [...] ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public slateytv: ar…

It's getting weirder. They've just responded to everyone who mentioned this debacle on twitter, saying that it's all resolved and all the posters on HN are spammers, banned users, and competitors. I'm none of the above. Go on guys, dig yourselves a deeper hole, you'll hit bedrock soon.

The twitter account needs to STOP POSTING.

https://twitter.com/livecodingtv

It's honestly baffling how they think that keeping on posting is in anyway a good idea, especially when they say things like "most people are banned users or competitors" - demonstrably untrue - most people are not users of livestreaming, and are not competitors, and a couple of people they've "identified" (doxxed, really) have been incorrectly identified.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by spaceSub »

kuschku wrote: post #318
DrMJG_HN wrote: post #298

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Hi Alex from Watch People Code, i know you do not like us a lot because we did not agree to pay you money to move to Livecoding.tv. Please be honest and add a disclaimer that you are Alex from Watch People Code and you and your team members are trolling with different usernames in this thread and on Livecoding.tv. https://www.livecoding.tv/2pointoh/ also called Dan by first name is an individual in New York city who'…

Hi, I am Janne Koschinski, a 19 year old female Computer Science Student from Kiel, Germany. I don’t know who you think I am, but this is the most ridiculous claim I’ve ever heard. Proof of not being this "alex" here: http://i.imgur.com/G7qo5qn.jpg Thanks for giving me a laugh in my math lecture, though. ---------------- Now for the legal part: Dear Sir or Madam, If you are represented by legal council, please redire…

Okay, you won the internet for today!

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by madaxe_again »

DanBC wrote: post #361
madaxe_again wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's getting weirder. They've just responded to everyone who mentioned this debacle on twitter, saying that it's all resolved and all the posters on HN are spammers, banned users, and competitors. I'm none of the above. Go on guys, dig yourselves a deeper hole, you'll hit bedrock soon.

The twitter account needs to STOP POSTING. https://twitter.com/livecodingtv It's honestly baffling how they think that keeping on posting is in anyway a good idea, especially when they say things like "most people are banned users or competitors" - demonstrably untrue - most people are not users of livestreaming, and are not competitors, and a couple of people they've "identified" (doxxed, really) have been incorrect…

Watching their exchanges - they (Michael, clearly) are acutely insane.

I feel for the guy, as his world-view is so incredibly warped he seems to be unable to even conceive of the fact that he might be mishandling this grievously.

If I were him, I'd step away from the keyboard, and hire a PR firm NOW to try to sort out this mess.

If I were PG, I'd be kicking his ass from here 'til next Tuesday for being mindblowingly irresponsible with both the investment given and his employees' livelihoods, and I'd be pushing for a strong customer-facing hire.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by kuschku »

spaceSub wrote: post #362
kuschku wrote: post #318

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Hi, I am Janne Koschinski, a 19 year old female Computer Science Student from Kiel, Germany. I don’t know who you think I am, but this is the most ridiculous claim I’ve ever heard. Proof of not being this "alex" here: http://i.imgur.com/G7qo5qn.jpg Thanks for giving me a laugh in my math lecture, though. ---------------- Now for the legal part: Dear Sir or Madam, If you are represented by legal council, please redire…

Okay, you won the internet for today!

I just bought stamps (haven’t sent a letter in years, and they don’t seem to have fax) to send them the Cease & Desist in mail, too.

Let’s see what’s going to happen, if they don’t react at all, I can still go down the legal path.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by Mtinie »

avinoth wrote: post #260
drakonka wrote: post #255

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

Wow, the title of profile page is now * Marked for removal from database - in PHP programming language * Curious what they're doing right now..

I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it's in PHP programming language!

Could their support "team" be an automated agent proof of concept gone terribly, terribly wrong? /s

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by spaceSub »

DrMJG_HN wrote: post #275
ShirsenduK wrote: post #26

So they not only use Flash but every ugly trick in the book.

Some users prefer flash other HTML5. We are just testing HTML5 on staging server and will release HTML5 streams soon.

Nobody prefers flash for video streaming. Not one person on the planet.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by tptacek »

tomcam wrote: post #222
dang wrote: post #213

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I'm going to assume that this is a seriously misfired joke instead of the bannable offense it initially looked like, but please don't post anything like this to HN.

Choice is a) seriously misfired joke. Was satirizing the Livecoding people. Feel free to ban, though. If HN is too delicate for satire I suspect I'm a bad fit.

Satire is great. Unfortunately: most comments on HN that are written like that are not satire.

The problem of misconstrued satire is as old as the Internet. And because satirizing misogyny on HN is a high wire act in the best of circumstances, you'd be smart to put some explicit indication that you're joking when you attempt it.

Or just don't attempt it at all.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by kuschku »

orless wrote: post #349
drakonka wrote: post #347

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I filed an ICO report early this morning, but not sure how far that will get to be honest. I am not familiar with the UK's systems or what they will bother to do with this, if anything.

Seems like the guy does not need any external help ruining his business.

It’s Peter’s law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

> In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by ericdykstra »

I hope Liza comes up with a follow-up post: "the saga continues"

They continue to deny any wrongdoing, and continue in their favorite game of copy-and-paste-replys on Twitter. https://twitter.com/livecodingtv/with_replies

Here's one directed at me (and 2 other people, since I guess in this instance they were too lazy to copy and past the reply 2 extra times: https://twitter.com/livecodingtv/status/661153102750425088

This deep in a hole and they're still convinced they are the victims... Unbelievable.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by empressplay »

ericdykstra wrote: post #369

I hope Liza comes up with a follow-up post: "the saga continues" They continue to deny any wrongdoing, and continue in their favorite game of copy-and-paste-replys on Twitter. https://twitter.com/livecodingtv/with_replies Here's one directed at me (and 2 other people, since I guess in this instance they were too lazy to copy and past the reply 2 extra times: https://twitter.com/livecodingtv/status/661153102750425088…

Hm. All my critics are competitors or bad actors we had to ban. Convenient. Or paranoia.

In all seriousness though, I worry about the co-founder(s) mental health. It's all fun to poke at people and say they've lost it, but running a startup is a highly stressful endeavour and it shouldn't be ignored when people break, which I suspect has happened in this case.

It's a tough situation. They'll want to defend what they have, tooth and nail, because it means everything to them. We'll want to counter against what they say, because we feel it's wrong to let that sort of thing go unchallenged. But who wins?

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