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My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hes still chatting by the way. https://www.livecoding.tv/ell/ if anyone would like to ask the CEO of the site any questions while I wait for my account to really be deleted.

Can't view the transcript without an account.

This is a part of the transcript: http://pastie.org/10523576

Very immature CEO.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#262

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO):

   slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company
   drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it.
   [...]
   ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public
   slateytv: are you unable to delete accounts?
   ellbot: do you not get how childish and evil that is
   drmjg: oh no. #1 we can but as you know is not like we go and delete each account instantly as 80% of users who requests account deletion come back after two weeks to requests their account back and are mad we deleted it
   drmjg: #2 people who requested account deletion in pasts used the accounts for credit card fraud and then re-create new ones.
This is the weirdest attempt at a runaround I've seen in awhile.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#263

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO): slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it. [...] ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public slateytv: ar…

Man, if I were an investor I'd be doing anything I possibly could to eject this guy.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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post #221

Thank you for this post. I've been looking into using Livecoding in the exact same way the author has, and now know that it is not the platform for me. Maybe there is space for a competitor?

Yeah, a competitor where users can easily fork the code and send a pull request (maybe even with support for a webIDE?) sounds like it could easily make profit in this situation...

I'm going to look into it.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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I think actual deletion of accounts is not a functionality that is high on any startups list - disabling is probably the usual course of action? However, to lie about it is another matter entirely.

Deletion of accounts is a very low bar that should be met for anything to be qualified as a minimum viable product. It shouldn't be that hard, especially if you take 5 minutes to think about your assumptions and how you could handle it, right at the start.

This is a service that ends up running on the internet and can have international people using it. That means you need to be very conscious of international laws. EU citizens have a legal right to have their data deleted by sites.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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It looks like Livecoding have now updated my profile for me, to claim I am "spamming them": https://www.livecoding.tv/lazer/

Hi drakonka, I have only just found out about this, and was until now not aware of what happened. I don't know why my cofounder Michael marked you as spam, and I will ask him to contact you. I can only apologise for the handling of your account deletion, it really is not acceptable that it took so long, so we will make it a priority to improve this.

In all seriousness, you need to remove your co-founder's ability to do anything on your site. If that's not practical, you should seriously think about making an exit yourself. For one, your business is now effectively dead in its primary market, it's going to be a long hard road back, if it's even remotely possible; for a second thing, you've just had your name and personal and professional reputation completely tarnished by what appear to be Michael's actions, and made worse by the childish retaliation on OPs profile (regardless of who did that).

The loss of your own reputation is going to be harder to come back from. Reputable VCs doing even basic due diligence are going to see this incident and aren't going to want to have anything to do with you, unless you show swift and decisive action, one way or another. So far your response has been neither swift nor decisive.

For what it's worth, asking Michael to contact OP seems like a really bad idea. He's hardly shown good customer services skills so far, do you really think he's going to do a better job suddenly?

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't view the transcript without an account.

A good hilight: http://pastie.org/10523598

> even going extra miles and telling users not to use misogynistic words on their channels.

That's... that's... wow. Just wow.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO): slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it. [...] ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public slateytv: ar…

Sad. This person has obviously divorced reality. Shocking that a simple account deletion request could reveal so much. Whether his reaction was a product of pent-up frustration over normal growth challenges or a singular (now ongoing) display of gross immaturity, he has irreparably damaged his company.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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post #105

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By that logic, Libya probably has the most active startup scene of any country right now.

You do know that's what the top level domains were actually for, right?

I don't disagree! Most countries' registries don't have requirements around geographical presence, so here we are.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

#270

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from a…

Looks like it's finally a 404.
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