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Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by brighteyes »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #217
austenallred wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is incredible. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. A company blatantly pissing off much of its would-be userbase and sticking to its grossly incompetent guns, obviously not caring at all. I literally cannot imagine a way they could handle this more poorly.

This has to be mental illness or drugs. Completely bizarre.

Another possibility, but not a likely one, is that the site has been hacked by someone that is trying to make them look as bad as possible.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by avinassh »

drakonka wrote: post #237
sama wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.

Thanks, I hope you guys can get somewhere. I'm preparing a complaint to file with the ICO and looking into other options since nothing else seems to have worked and I have no idea what else to do, but really I just want to have my account deleted and move on. I can't believe a simple support ticket spun out into this debacle.

Please sue them for libel.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by k3n »

They've also been spamming reddit pretty hard. As a mod of a programming sub, I've had to add their domain to the automod spam list for post spam, and then report a user or two to /r/spam for comment spam (and are now shadowbanned) . Kind of surprised to learn that they were YC.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by burritofanatic »

sama wrote: post #231
empressplay wrote: post #214

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under norma…

YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.

This is really odd, though it may reveal the dynamic between the founders. Wonder what the conversations have been, and if any even occurred.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by MCRed »

makomk wrote: post #138
pkaye wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will it will become a YC problem with all the bad PR.

Remember, pg has defended a YC company's sleazy tactics for bundling unwanted software in installers (including disguising the choice to install them as an ordinary EULA acceptance scheme, which he whitewashed as confirming that they wanted to install the software) and even that didn't do them any real damage.

He also defended AirBnBs founders when they were publicly blaming-the-victim: customer whose house had been trashed by meth heads after renting it out on AirBnB.

Eventually the company seemed to hire a crisis consultant and started acting better.

But in the early days the founders were being extremely douchy and PG wrote an article that I was astounded to receive, defending the douchiness.

That was the point that I started to think YC isn't better than the average level of Silicon Valley.

BTW, many YC companies engage in fake traction tactics sometimes ones that cross the line into dishonesty-- for example AirBnBs "we'll spam people listing their places on craigslist while pretending to be someone else" marketing scheme.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by gkop »

omegaham wrote: post #236
deadcoding wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it is they need to pull funding immediately.

As far as I know, Y Combinator invests a lump sum and then contributes mentorship. Their only real recourse is to say, "Sorry, we've decided that you're not worth our time" and to terminate all work with the company. Which, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

> To maintain our community, if a founder behaves unethically during or after YC, we will revoke their YC founder status. This includes access to all Y Combinator spaces, software, lists and events. All founders in a company may be held responsible for the unethical actions of a single co-founder or a company employee, depending on the circumstances.

https://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by niyazpk »

empressplay wrote: post #214

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under norma…

Is it wrong to assume that at least one co-founder in a YC funded startup knows how to write code?

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by hluska »

sama wrote: post #231
empressplay wrote: post #214

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under norma…

YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.

Take a look at the original archive.is image which the author posted. You'll notice that the company spelled its own name wrong:

https://archive.is/T3Ms7

I just loaded up her page a few minutes ago and they fixed the spelling. An image is here:

http://imgur.com/pqW4tbC

Pardon my language, but it's fucked up that someone with access changed the spelling but didn't have enough sense to just remove the whole 'banned for spamming'. Especially in light of the fact that one of the founders replied on this thread eight hours ago.

This doesn't seem like the typical bad customer service incident. I'm not trying to excuse this behaviour (because it's wrong on every level), but I really hope that everyone in that company is mentally healthy and safe.

Re: My Livecoding.tv account deletion saga

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Post by slaxman »

empressplay wrote: post #214

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under norma…

This is incredible! Also, just noticed their homepage: https://www.livecoding.tv/

http://imgur.com/ryBikOY

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