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Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. Your fixation of the HTTP protocol was invented by Ti…

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. I have no idea where your anger, vitriol, and venom o…

Save your humble condescending suggestions, its a side-effect of having to constantly deal with mindless blinkered zealots who can only think with REST blinkers on and are immediately dismissive of any technology that supersedes it with endless ramblings of what is/isn't REST and anything that isn't is automatically Evil, which is worse than a waste of text since it wastes other peoples times who could otherwise be spent delivering value. So take note your REST crusades aren't victim-less, there are others who just want to deliver the best experience with all tools at their disposal and your mindless preaching is viewed as an obstacle to progress.

I have no trouble accepting the truth, I take issue with your thinly veiled attempts to thwart it in your attempts to glorify the author of your precious REST as the founding father of the Internet, which he is far from responsible. Even if he didn't contribute anything we'd still have the Internet and the WWW. It's very well-known he helped create HTTP, but HTTP existed before his contributions and continues to evolve without them. You're trying to downplay decades of accomplishments of brilliant minds that went into creating the Internet and the decades of programmer-effort who created technologies that goes into creating modern browsers whom are responsible for forming the web experiences as we know it today - just so you can glorify the author of your movement to aid in your preaching as a weapon to combat anything that's not REST.

The fact is Tim Berners-Lee did create the first version of a text protocol known as HTTP on-his-own (a fact you can't bring yourself to admit), and like all technology he didn't do it in a vacuum, his ideas are shaped from ideas and technologies before him. Which is how all technology should progress, constant improvements by brilliant minds over time, with the best ideas succeeding. What blocks progress is religious technologies like REST, which itself isn't what's bad, it's the side-effect of breeding mindless souls who constantly seek to block anything which falls out its puristic view which they treat as Gospel. Which moves the focus from the end-user experience to how can we accomplish this into the most REST-ful way possible.

> The fact that you conflate a REST architecture with "full page reloads" only shows your ignorance.

Actually its your biased ignorance that I'm replying to, you think the reason that Native Mobile Apps is eating websites is because of SPA's that have "megabytes of interpreted code" - something you are desperate to believe in but which couldn't be further from the truth, those SPA's are what's keeping the Web competitive with Native Mobile Apps. Where are all the superior HATEOS mobile apps? It's been more than a decade of failed attempts which have yet to produce anything that holds a candle to a quality Native Mobile or Desktop App, who still can't figure out how to shoe-horn offline usage into their server-driven turn-by-turn apps.

Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. I have no idea where your anger, vitriol, and venom o…

Save your humble condescending suggestions, its a side-effect of having to constantly deal with mindless blinkered zealots who can only think with REST blinkers on and are immediately dismissive of any technology that supersedes it with endless ramblings of what is/isn't REST and anything that isn't is automatically Evil, which is worse than a waste of text since it wastes other peoples times who could otherwise be s…

You probably need to re-read the site guidelines.

Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. Your fixation of the HTTP protocol was invented by Ti…

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. I have no idea where your anger, vitriol, and venom o…

What a rude, hateful, comment. You should probably re-read the site guidelines.

Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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REST is one of the worst tech religions ever created yielding the most blinkered zealots. It's treated like a Bible where every word is taken as the Gospel truth that can't be tested, validated, compared or improved upon. Any alternative technology that reduces latency, improves performance and end user experience is considered an evil intrusion invalidating the purity of REST and must be vanquished. In the name of R…

This subthread started out inflammatory and turned, predictably, into a ridiculous flamewar. Please don't do that here.

We detached this from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10413927 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. Your fixation of the HTTP protocol was invented by Ti…

Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. I have no idea where your anger, vitriol, and venom o…

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Re: Facebook Relay: An Evil And/Or Incompetent Attack on REST

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post #165

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Thanks but I don't need a misguided history lesson skewed to support your warped view of events attributing the creation of the Web to your lord and savior who you wish was sole entity responsible for the Internet but was instead created by the geniuses who built the ARPANET in 1969 which is what formed the technical foundation and what made the Internet possible. I have no idea where your anger, vitriol, and venom o…

Your comments have broken the HN guidelines by being personally abusive. That's not allowed, regardless of how wrongly someone else has behaved, and we ban accounts that do this repeatedly. Please re-read the guidelines and post civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I see your point and apologize for letting the interaction degenerate to this point. Allowing myself to intermix reactionary statements with this post is a regrettable decision. The wiser choice would have been to "walk away from the thread."
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